Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756118AbZCXPOo (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:14:44 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751815AbZCXPOd (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:14:33 -0400 Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out1.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.106]:56167 "EHLO outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out1.iinet.net.au" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751766AbZCXPOb (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:14:31 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 615 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:14:30 EDT X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAECTyEl8qXHv/2dsb2JhbADTXIN2Bg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,413,1233500400"; d="scan'208";a="471220153" Message-ID: <49C8F66B.3060401@themaw.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:04:11 +0900 From: Ian Kent User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Layton CC: Wu Fengguang , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, jens.axboe@oracle.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, hch@infradead.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] writeback: reset inode dirty time when adding it back to empty s_dirty list References: <1237840233-11045-1-git-send-email-jlayton@redhat.com> <20090324135720.GA25314@localhost> <20090324102806.4f38fd26@tleilax.poochiereds.net> <20090324104657.6907b19e@tleilax.poochiereds.net> In-Reply-To: <20090324104657.6907b19e@tleilax.poochiereds.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 7098 Lines: 153 Jeff Layton wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:28:06 -0400 > Jeff Layton wrote: > >> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:57:20 +0800 >> Wu Fengguang wrote: >> >>> Hi Jeff, >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 04:30:33PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: >>>> This may be a problem on other filesystems too, but the reproducer I >>>> have involves NFS. >>>> >>>> On NFS, the __mark_inode_dirty() call after writing back the inode is >>>> done in the rpc_release handler for COMMIT calls. This call is done >>>> asynchronously after the call completes. >>>> >>>> Because there's no real coordination between __mark_inode_dirty() and >>>> __sync_single_inode(), it's often the case that these two calls will >>>> race and __mark_inode_dirty() will get called while I_SYNC is still set. >>>> When this happens, __sync_single_inode() should detect that the inode >>>> was redirtied while we were flushing it and call redirty_tail() to put >>>> it back on the s_dirty list. >>>> >>>> When redirty_tail() puts it back on the list, it only resets the >>>> dirtied_when value if it's necessary to maintain the list order. Given >>>> the right situation (the right I/O patterns and a lot of luck), this >>>> could result in dirtied_when never getting updated on an inode that's >>>> constantly being redirtied while pdflush is writing it back. >>>> >>>> Since dirtied_when is based on jiffies, it's possible for it to persist >>>> across 2 sign-bit flips of jiffies. When that happens, the time_after() >>>> check in sync_sb_inodes no longer works correctly and writeouts by >>>> pdflush of this inode and any inodes after it on the list stop. >>>> >>>> This patch fixes this by resetting the dirtied_when value on an inode >>>> when we're adding it back onto an empty s_dirty list. Since we generally >>>> write inodes from oldest to newest dirtied_when values, this has the >>>> effect of making it so that these inodes don't end up with dirtied_when >>>> values that are frozen. >>>> >>>> I've also taken the liberty of fixing up the comments a bit and changed >>>> the !time_after_eq() check in redirty_tail to be time_before(). That >>>> should be functionally equivalent but I think it's more readable. >>>> >>>> I wish this were just a theoretical problem, but we've had a customer >>>> hit a variant of it in an older kernel. Newer upstream kernels have a >>>> number of changes that make this problem less likely. As best I can tell >>>> though, there is nothing that really prevents it. >>>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Jeff Layton >>>> --- >>>> fs/fs-writeback.c | 22 +++++++++++++++++----- >>>> 1 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) >>>> >>>> diff --git a/fs/fs-writeback.c b/fs/fs-writeback.c >>>> index e3fe991..bd2a7ff 100644 >>>> --- a/fs/fs-writeback.c >>>> +++ b/fs/fs-writeback.c >>>> @@ -184,19 +184,31 @@ static int write_inode(struct inode *inode, int sync) >>>> * furthest end of its superblock's dirty-inode list. >>>> * >>>> * Before stamping the inode's ->dirtied_when, we check to see whether it is >>>> - * already the most-recently-dirtied inode on the s_dirty list. If that is >>>> - * the case then the inode must have been redirtied while it was being written >>>> - * out and we don't reset its dirtied_when. >>>> + * "newer" or equal to that of the most-recently-dirtied inode on the s_dirty >>>> + * list. If that is the case then we don't need to restamp it to maintain the >>>> + * order of the list. >>>> + * >>>> + * If s_dirty is empty however, then we need to go ahead and update >>>> + * dirtied_when for the inode. Not doing so will mean that inodes that are >>>> + * constantly being redirtied can end up with "stuck" dirtied_when values if >>>> + * they happen to consistently be the first one to go back on the list. >>>> + * >>>> + * Since we're using jiffies values in that field, letting dirtied_when grow >>>> + * too old will be problematic if jiffies wraps. It may also be causing >>>> + * pdflush to flush the inode too often since it'll always look like it was >>>> + * dirtied a long time ago. >>>> */ >>>> static void redirty_tail(struct inode *inode) >>>> { >>>> struct super_block *sb = inode->i_sb; >>>> >>>> - if (!list_empty(&sb->s_dirty)) { >>>> + if (list_empty(&sb->s_dirty)) { >>>> + inode->dirtied_when = jiffies; >>>> + } else { >>>> struct inode *tail_inode; >>>> >>>> tail_inode = list_entry(sb->s_dirty.next, struct inode, i_list); >>>> - if (!time_after_eq(inode->dirtied_when, >>>> + if (time_before(inode->dirtied_when, >>>> tail_inode->dirtied_when)) >>>> inode->dirtied_when = jiffies; >>>> } >>> I'm afraid you patch is equivalent to the following one. >>> Because once the first inode's dirtied_when is set to jiffies, >>> in order to keep the list in order, the following ones (mostly) >>> will also be updated. A domino effect. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Fengguang >>> >> Good point. One of our other engineers proposed a similar patch >> originally. I considered it but wasn't clear whether there could be a >> situation where unconditionally resetting dirtied_when would be a >> problem. Now that I think about it though, I think you're right... >> >> So maybe something like the patch below is the right thing to do? Or, >> maybe when we believe that the inode was fully cleaned and then >> redirtied, we'd just unconditionally stamp dirtied_when. Something like >> this maybe? >> >> diff --git a/fs/fs-writeback.c b/fs/fs-writeback.c >> index bd2a7ff..596c96e 100644 >> --- a/fs/fs-writeback.c >> +++ b/fs/fs-writeback.c >> @@ -364,7 +364,8 @@ __sync_single_inode(struct inode *inode, struct writeback_control *wbc) >> * Someone redirtied the inode while were writing back >> * the pages. >> */ >> - redirty_tail(inode); >> + inode->dirtied_when = jiffies; >> + list_move(&inode->i_list, &sb->s_dirty); >> } else if (atomic_read(&inode->i_count)) { >> /* >> * The inode is clean, inuse > > Hmm...though it is still possible that you could consistently race in > such a way that after writepages(), I_DIRTY is never set but the > PAGECACHE_TAG_DIRTY is still set on the mapping. And then we'd be back > to the same problem of a stuck dirtied_when value. > > So maybe someone can explain to me why we take such great pains to > preserve the dirtied_when value when we're putting the inode back on > the tail of s_dirty? Why not just unconditionally reset it? I think that redirty_tail() is the best place for this as it is a central location where dirtied_when can be updated. Then all we have to worry about is making sure it is called from all the locations needed. I'm not sure that removing the comment is a good idea (the Wu Fengguang patch) but it probably needs to be revised to explain why dirtied_when is forcing a rewrite of the list entry times. Ian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/