Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753435AbZCYUW6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:22:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751601AbZCYUWn (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:22:43 -0400 Received: from zrtps0kp.nortel.com ([47.140.192.56]:58872 "EHLO zrtps0kp.nortel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751133AbZCYUWm (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:22:42 -0400 Message-ID: <49CA927B.9080709@nortel.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:22:19 -0600 From: "Chris Friesen" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Miller CC: Matt_Domsch@dell.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Network Device Naming mechanism and policy References: <20090324154617.GA16332@auslistsprd01.us.dell.com> <20090324.155756.214460004.davem@davemloft.net> In-Reply-To: <20090324.155756.214460004.davem@davemloft.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2009 20:22:21.0010 (UTC) FILETIME=[66968320:01C9AD87] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1100 Lines: 29 David Miller wrote: > From: Matt Domsch > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:46:17 -0500 > >> Problem: Users expect on-motherboard NICs to be named eth0..ethN. >> This can be difficult to achieve. > > I learned a long time ago that eth0 et al. have zero meaning. > > If the system firmware folks gave us topology information with respect > to these things, we could export something that tools such as > NetworkManager, iproute2, etc. could use. > I guess it's easier to spew about MAC addresses and other > irrelevant topics than try to solve this problem properly. :-) What about things like USB network adapters where the topology is not fixed? Presumably we would want to use some sort of unique identifier, and the MAC comes to mind. Of course, then you run into the problem of how to deal with duplicate MACs. Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/