From: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>
To: Jose Celestino <japc@co.sapo.pt>
Subject: Re: relatime: update once per day patches (was: ext3 IO latency measurements)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:14:02 +0100
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On Thursday 26 March 2009, Jose Celestino wrote:
> Words by Theodore Tso [Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:30:26PM -0400]:
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 09:14:28AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > I generally agree witht he "leave policy to user space" people, but
> > > this is an area where (a) user space has shown itself to not get it
> > > right (ie people don't do even the existing relatime because
> > > distros don't) and (b) what's the alternative?
> >
> > I thought at least some distro's were adding relatime by default; I
> > could be wrong, but I thought Ubuntu was doing this.
>
> Yes.

No, not the "pure" relatime that's in the upstream kernel. And that's the 
whole point here. See my direct reply to Ted.

Cheers,
FJP
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