Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762856AbZC0AQS (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:16:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1762790AbZC0APk (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:15:40 -0400 Received: from cpsmtpm-eml104.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.8]:49319 "EHLO CPSMTPM-EML104.kpnxchange.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1762736AbZC0APg (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:15:36 -0400 From: Frans Pop To: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Make relatime default Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:15:27 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, mjg@redhat.com, tytso@mit.edu, mingo@elte.hu, jack@suse.cz, akpm@linux-foundation.org, arjan@infradead.org, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, npiggin@suse.de, jens.axboe@oracle.com, drees76@gmail.com, jesper@krogh.cc, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, oleg@redhat.com, roland@redhat.com References: <20090325235041.GA11024@duck.suse.cz> <20090326090630.GA9369@elte.hu> <20090326113705.GV32307@mit.edu> <20090326140312.GB14822@elte.hu> <20090326144707.GA6239@mit.edu> <20090326170714.GF6239@mit.edu> <20090326174956.GB7198@srcf.ucam.org> <20090326175314.GC7198@srcf.ucam.org> <20090326184838.26166549@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090326184838.26166549@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903270115.32071.elendil@planet.nl> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2009 00:15:32.0601 (UTC) FILETIME=[24A39E90:01C9AE71] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1191 Lines: 25 Linus Torvalds wrote: > If the distro's had done this right in the year+ that this has been in, > I might consider your NAK to have some weight. > > As it is, we know that didn't happen, and we've had three different > people from different distributions say that they wanted to use relatime > anyway, so it's now the default in my git tree. > > If you want to live in some dark ages, you can do so with the > "strictatime" thing. I obviously welcome the inclusion of the first patch and I'm neutral about the second one, but I'm not at all sure that making relatime the default (yet) is the right thing, especially as util-linux' mount command does not yet even support that "strictatime" thing. Shouldn't that at least happen first (and have been supported in distro's stable releases for some time)? I guess users and distros can still elect not to set it as default, but it still seems a bit like going from one extreme to another. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/