Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757653AbZC0PWq (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:22:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754287AbZC0PWg (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:22:36 -0400 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:57190 "EHLO vavatch.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753323AbZC0PWg (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:22:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:22:21 +0000 From: Matthew Garrett To: Alan Cox Cc: Theodore Tso , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , David Rees , Jesper Krogh , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.29 Message-ID: <20090327152221.GA25234@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20090326174704.cd36bf7b.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090327032301.GN6239@mit.edu> <20090327034705.GA16888@srcf.ucam.org> <20090327051338.GP6239@mit.edu> <20090327055750.GA18065@srcf.ucam.org> <20090327062114.GA18290@srcf.ucam.org> <20090327112438.GQ6239@mit.edu> <20090327145156.GB24819@srcf.ucam.org> <20090327150811.09b313f5@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090327150811.09b313f5@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on vavatch.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 908 Lines: 19 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 03:08:11PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > Not checking for errors is not "progress" its indiscipline aided by > languages and tools that permit it to occur without issuing errors. It's > why software "engineering" is at best approaching early 1950's real > engineering practice ("hey gee we should test this stuff") and has yet to > grow up and get anywhere into the world of real engineering and quality. No. Not *having* to check for errors in the cases that you care about is progress. How much of the core kernel actually deals with kmalloc failures sensibly? Some things just aren't worth it. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/