Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758042AbZC0TCe (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:02:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753573AbZC0TCZ (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:02:25 -0400 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:39117 "EHLO www.etchedpixels.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752824AbZC0TCY (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:02:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:00:56 +0000 From: Alan Cox To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Matthew Garrett , Theodore Tso , Andrew Morton , David Rees , Jesper Krogh , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.29 Message-ID: <20090327190056.3b699e89@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <20090327051338.GP6239@mit.edu> <20090327055750.GA18065@srcf.ucam.org> <20090327062114.GA18290@srcf.ucam.org> <20090327112438.GQ6239@mit.edu> <20090327145156.GB24819@srcf.ucam.org> <20090327150811.09b313f5@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090327152221.GA25234@srcf.ucam.org> <20090327161553.31436545@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090327162841.GA26860@srcf.ucam.org> <20090327165150.7e69d9e1@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090327170208.GA27646@srcf.ucam.org> <20090327183214.2e73b6a3@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 988 Lines: 24 > > Far too many people don't - and it is unfortunate but people should learn > > to write quality software. > > You're ignoring reality. > > Your definition of "quality software" is PURE SH*T. Actually "pure sh*t" is most of the software currently written. The more code I read the happier I get that the lawmakers are finally sick of it and going to make damned sure software is subject to liability law. Boy will that improve things. > Alan, just please face that reality, and think about it for a moment. If > fsync() was instantaneous, this discussion wouldn't exist. But read the > thread. We're talking 3-5s under NORMAL load, with peaks of minutes. The peaks of minutes is a bug. The 3-5 seconds is the thread discussion. Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/