Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755114AbZC2A3w (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:29:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751726AbZC2A3n (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:29:43 -0400 Received: from www.tglx.de ([62.245.132.106]:45766 "EHLO www.tglx.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751080AbZC2A3n (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:29:43 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:28:31 +0100 (CET) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Ingo Molnar cc: "H. Peter Anvin" , Sam Ravnborg , Alexey Dobriyan , Jaswinder Singh Rajput , x86 maintainers , LKML Subject: Re: [git-pull -tip] x86: include inverse Xmas tree patches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1238251730.2526.2.camel@ht.satnam> <20090328150746.GA3268@x200.localdomain> <20090328190350.GA30214@uranus.ravnborg.org> <49CEA3CD.105@kernel.org> <20090328233438.GA4957@elte.hu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LFD 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2462 Lines: 57 On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > > > > > Personally I'd prefer alphabetic order, sorting based on length > > > > isn't a complete ordering. Nearly all editors can sort > > > > alphabetically at the push of a key. > > > > > > I'd prefer if somebody would sit down and write a tool to analyse > > > the include hell instead of manually shuffling crap around to > > > avoid trivial merge conflicts. I have cleaned up enough stuff in > > > the x86 merger myself where I was able to cut the number of > > > includes at least in half just by staring at the gcc intermediate > > > files. We could do better and automate the analysis so we get down > > > to a handful of includes instead of including the world and more. > > > > I do not disagree with include file cleanups (we've done many of > > them in this cycle and in previous cycles), but note that the > > reduction in include files at the top of .c files actually increases > > the chance of patch conflicts: when a new include file is added by > > two patches to the same .c file. > > Those conflicts are trivial and if we have a mechanism to anlyse > include dependencies then we can avoid such conflicts often at all. > > Go through some of the include madness and watch the compiler reading > the same header file ten times for a single source file compile. I'm not against sorting the headers at all. I personally have no preference whether it's alphabetical or length, but... I just run the following on current git: # FS=`find -type f`; for F in $FS; do grep -c "#include" $F; done | sort -n | uniq -c The top 5 are: lib/locking-selftest.c: 108 (justified as this includes all the test cases) fs/compat_ioctl.c 88 (maybe ok as it is the all in one kitchen sink) arch/x86/kernel/setup.c: 76 (completely nuts) init/main.c: 62 (needs to be looked at) security/selinux/hooks.c 61 (needs to be looked at, spotted at least 5 which can be removed) 1400 files have more than 20 includes. 5375 more than 10. I think it's well justified to sit down and work on a tool which helps us analyse and distangle that mess. Thanks, tglx -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/