Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:05:46 +0100
From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: "Andreas T.Auer" <andreas.t.auer_lkml_73537@ursus.ath.cx>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>,
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       David Rees <drees76@gmail.com>, Jesper Krogh <jesper@krogh.cc>,
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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.29
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> It seems you still didn't get the point. ext3 data=ordered is not the
> problem. The problem is that the average developer doesn't expect the fs
> to _re-order_ stuff. This is how most common fs did work long before

No it isn?t. Standard Unix file systems made no such guarantee and would
write out data out of order. The disk scheduler would then further
re-order things.

If you think the ?guarantees? from before ext3 are normal defaults you?ve
been writing junk code

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