Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753921AbZCaIPJ (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:15:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756371AbZCaIOs (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:14:48 -0400 Received: from mondschein.lichtvoll.de ([194.150.191.11]:52877 "EHLO mail.lichtvoll.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755128AbZCaIOq (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:14:46 -0400 From: Martin Steigerwald To: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Replacing VFAT as filesystem on removeable media Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:15:28 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, info@fsf.org, office@fsfeurope.org, info@linuxfoundation.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2228498.mSUDWKR0yX"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200903311015.29222.Martin@Lichtvoll.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2699 Lines: 77 --nextPart2228498.mSUDWKR0yX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi! Now as TomTom appears to have surrendered to Microsoft and Microsoft seems= =20 to have accepted this deal probably in order to not find out that their=20 patents are void, I think replacing VFAT as standard cross platform=20 filesystem on removeable media would be an even better idea than before=20 [1]. Granted I believe the patents will be made void one day, but even then I=20 think it would make sense to replace VFAT for technical reasons. Such a filesystem IMHO should have the following features: =2D cross platform with implementations for Linux, Windows, Mac OS X at=20 least, also the varios BSD variantes come to my mind =2D open source =2D probably some support for flash media without or with bad wear leveling =2D some kind of journaling or other metadata consistency guarentee=20 People use ext2 as an alternative, but that lacks journaling. I could also think of UDF with write support, but I am not sure whether=20 Windows and Mac OS X has write support. Or probably even a new filesystem as long as people appear to write one=20 filesystem after another these days. Or some kind of FAT *without* compatibility hacks, but I think this would=20 still be an inferior solution as long as it doesn't provide for metadata=20 consistency. Maybe this could become some kind of Linux Foundation or FSF joint effort?= =20 Together with advertising and advocacy of free software users this could=20 probably really replace VFAT in the long term. What do you think? What other features would make sense to for such a=20 filesystem. I am willing to test such a filesystem and help with documentation as well= =20 as advocacy. But for coding I better start with something easier ;-). [1]=20 http://www.h-online.com/open/TomTom-Microsoft-settle-patent-dispute--/news/= 112964 Ciao, =2D-=20 Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 --nextPart2228498.mSUDWKR0yX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAknR0SEACgkQmRvqrKWZhMeA9gCfb6gQ/BXx1/4Tk95di4t6n7hC zkMAn0Z62SQPyuh6vtQ+X/BLdUtSUwLO =POOF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2228498.mSUDWKR0yX-- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/