Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:23:32 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:22:55 -0500 Received: from [208.29.163.248] ([208.29.163.248]:22199 "HELO warden.diginsite.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:21:42 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:19:47 -0800 (PST) From: David Lang To: "H. Peter Anvin" cc: "Rose, Billy" , "'Martin Dalecki'" , Mike Fedyk , Subject: Re: ext3 and undeletion In-Reply-To: <3C7BCD4A.9020400@zytor.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org well, if they run everything on worm drives or setup a filesystem that never overwrites blocks, only allocates new ones (and never has a hardware failure) and are willing to buy huge amounts of storage, it's possible, but the cost (if only for installing all the new disk drives) would be huge. David Lang On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:00:42 -0800 > From: H. Peter Anvin > To: "Rose, Billy" > Cc: 'Martin Dalecki' , > Mike Fedyk , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: ext3 and undeletion > > Rose, Billy wrote: > > > > > My company can tolerate 0% loss of data (which is why I raised this issue). > > > > > There is no such thing as 0% loss of data. You can get some amount of > security with backups, snapshots (really useful!) or undelete, but you > can *NEVER* guarantee 0% loss of data... consider the case when a > (l)user overwrites (not just deletes) a newly created file. > > -hpa > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/