Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758459AbZDEW5l (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:57:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753705AbZDEW5c (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:57:32 -0400 Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com ([74.125.46.30]:3566 "EHLO yw-out-2324.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752212AbZDEW5a (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:57:30 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=S7Qaiue+TPQ07plph2/qGxYdfQkPm/jdg815G8YHvbjvcv85GJ7YPkKpOotcM9In8l ylHeFfJ5qJb+nXPj1RwqXc8QfGwnULB9P6dMhsLdOMVrE7uV521WeOymMOWSbkdSgyyn oNRLp8wbahdpRXqRoWwo8/H/V1lnjVS3rI6vI= Message-ID: <49D93756.2080608@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:57:26 -0400 From: John Moser User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090319) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: What would cause freezes that numlock fixes? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1979 Lines: 45 I'm using Ubuntu's current beta 9.04 and it's having issues. I think it's a kernel thing, but I have no debug data or anything; if anyone has any insight as to what might be happening I'd like that. I can't do debugging here (unless they package a debugging kernel). I'm using what Ubuntu calls "2.6.28-11.40" "generic", on x86-64, with the uname: Linux icebox 2.6.28-11-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 3 17:39:41 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux What's happening is this: I noticed immediately that the system lags a lot, especially when under load, sometimes when not under load. I figured bad scheduling at first. Switching to ext4 helped. Oddly enough, switching to elevator=as instead of CFQ helps as well. This helps, but doesn't fix the problem. So, I'm guessing there's no bug in CFQ or EXT3, but running these rather than AS and EXT4 aggravates symptoms. Occasionally almost everything in X will freeze. Some programs (like, a terminal) still work until they try to access the disk (say, if I run a command, bash hangs). I eventually had this happen while top was running and noticed stuff going into state D and staying there for up to 5 minutes, while the disk halts. I can still shift between virtual desktops in Gnome, with the stipulation that every application is frozen and I can't start any others. At some point (today, actually) I found a workaround. When applications-- either one, or all of them-- start to freeze, if I press (specifically) the Num Lock key, everything suddenly wakes up. Disk starts cranking like crazy, windows redraw, and I assume everything instantly comes back out of D state. Just Num Lock. Not A, not CTRL, not Tab. Just Num Lock. Anyone have any guesses? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/