Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761796AbZDGVma (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:42:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1761665AbZDGVmR (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:42:17 -0400 Received: from nwd2mail11.analog.com ([137.71.25.57]:53760 "EHLO nwd2mail11.analog.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1761303AbZDGVmQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:42:16 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,339,1235970000"; d="scan'208";a="69210947" From: Robin Getz Organization: Blackfin uClinux org To: "Matt Mackall" Subject: Re: IRQF_SAMPLE_RANDOM question... Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:44:17 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 CC: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Chris Peterson" References: <200904061430.26276.rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org> <200904070716.25846.rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org> <1239116251.14392.133.camel@calx> In-Reply-To: <1239116251.14392.133.camel@calx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <200904071744.17727.rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2009 21:41:57.0791 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD2432F0:01C9B7C9] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2881 Lines: 78 On Tue 7 Apr 2009 10:57, Matt Mackall pondered: > On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 07:16 -0400, Robin Getz wrote: > > On Mon 6 Apr 2009 15:01, Matt Mackall pondered: > > > On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 14:30 -0400, Robin Getz wrote: > > > > We have lots of embedded headless systems (no keyboard/mouse, no > > > > soundcard, no video) systems with *no* sources of entropy - and > > > > people using SSL. > > > > > > I'd rather add a random_sample_network call somewhere reasonably > > > central in the network stack. Then we can use the knowledge that the > > > sample is network-connected in the random core to decide how to > > > measure its entropy. The trouble with IRQF_SAMPLE_RANDOM is that > > > many of its users are technically bogus as entropy sources in the > > > current model. > > > > OK - that makes more sense. > > > > Does that mean we also shouldn't be using IRQF_SAMPLE_RANDOM on > > interrupt sources in subsystems which already have add_xxx_randomness() > > in them? (block devices, and input devices?) > > > > block/blk-core.c -> blk_end_io() -> add_disk_randomness() > > drivers/input/input.c -> input_event() -> add_input_randomness() > > > > drivers/block/xen-blkfront.c, line 639 > > > > drivers/input/touchscreen/wm97xx-core.c, line 374 > > drivers/input/keyboard/gpio_keys.c, line 145 > > drivers/input/keyboard/bf54x-keys.c, line 255 > > drivers/input/serio/hp_sdc.c, line 881 > > Yes. The flag needs to be taken out and shot. In general or just for input and block devices? There are still some in others: arch/arm/mach-omap1/board-palmz71.c arch/arm/mach-pxa/lubbock.c arch/arm/mach-pxa/magician.c arch/arm/mach-pxa/palmtx.c arch/arm/mach-pxa/palmz72.c arch/arm/mach-pxa/trizeps4.c arch/sparc/kernel/ldc.c arch/um/drivers/line.c arch/um/drivers/mconsole_kern.c arch/um/drivers/port_kern.c arch/um/drivers/xterm_kern.c arch/um/kernel/sigio.c arch/x86/kernel/amd_iommu_init.c drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-pmcmsp.c drivers/mfd/tps65010.c drivers/power/pda_power.c drivers/serial/bfin_sport_uart.c drivers/serial/mpc52xx_uart.c drivers/serial/uartlite.c drivers/staging/comedi/interrupt.h drivers/usb/gadget/goku_udc.c drivers/usb/gadget/omap_udc.c drivers/usb/gadget/pxa25x_udc.c drivers/usb/otg/gpio_vbus.c drivers/usb/otg/isp1301_omap.c > Everything going into the > RNG should be made to go through an add_*_randomness interface only. > Preferably not at a per-driver level. Is that "Everything in general, with a few exceptions", or "__Everything__"? If it is the latter I'll remove the ones that I'm responsible for, and send Sam something for checkpatch.pl to warn if this is used in the future. -Robin -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/