Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757853AbZDIEWz (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:22:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753828AbZDIEWp (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:22:45 -0400 Received: from sandeen.net ([209.173.210.139]:31626 "EHLO mail.sandeen.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753071AbZDIEWo (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:22:44 -0400 Message-ID: <49DD7812.1030408@sandeen.net> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:22:42 -0500 From: Eric Sandeen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lee Revell CC: Ric Wheeler , Theodore Tso , Ric Wheeler , Jens Axboe , Mikulas Patocka , device-mapper development , Linux Kernel Mailing List , ak@linux.intel.com, "MASON, CHRISTOPHER" Subject: Re: [dm-devel] Barriers still not passing on simple dm devices... References: <20090324150517.GX27476@kernel.dk> <20090326084205.GG27476@kernel.dk> <20090331104933.GJ5178@kernel.dk> <20090403081131.GP5178@kernel.dk> <49D77AC3.3020207@redhat.com> <20090405012839.GF7553@mit.edu> <49D89C06.1060700@gmail.com> <75b66ecd0904051814n353bb69bp76a38e36cac4d3fe@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <75b66ecd0904051814n353bb69bp76a38e36cac4d3fe@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1078 Lines: 24 Lee Revell wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote: >> One thing to point out here is that there are a lot of "servers" in high end >> data centers that do not have UPS backup. Those racks full of 1U and 2U >> boxes that are used to make "grids", "clouds" and so on often are built with >> as much gear as you can stuff in a rack - no batteries or UPS to be seen, so >> they are really quite similar to the normal desktop or home systems that we >> normally run at home :-) > > These days even bargain basement data centers provide UPS functionality for > you, via generator backup and A/B power. > > Lee In that case, you can turn off barriers. It's still no excuse, IMHO, for us to ship a journaling filesystem configuration which is known to corrupt on power loss, by default. -Eric -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/