Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754059AbZDORe1 (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:34:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752153AbZDOReR (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:34:17 -0400 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:50121 "EHLO www.etchedpixels.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752025AbZDOReQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:34:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:32:52 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: VomLehn Cc: Mark Lord , Alan Stern , Greg KH , Jeff Garzik , Linux USB kernel mailing list , LKML , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Arjan van de Ven Subject: Re: USB storage no-boot regression (bisected) Message-ID: <20090415183252.32ba7a4f@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090415170617.GA14485@cuplxvomd02.corp.sa.net> References: <49E60219.9080103@rtr.ca> <20090415170617.GA14485@cuplxvomd02.corp.sa.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 836 Lines: 20 > Saying that we were "lucky" that things worked before is no help and > you should be aware that it ticks people off. No doubt those who wrote the code and never expected that timing to reliably work will take affront at those who blame them for it not working. Those who expected it to work and never knew it was not guaranteed will feel likewise in reverse. The real questions are should it be fixed and is dumping the problem on the initrd the right answer. The concensus appears to yes and no. The console one is less clear but if we are doing one we should probably do both. Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/