Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758401AbZDRPKc (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:10:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751060AbZDRPKU (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:10:20 -0400 Received: from ogre.sisk.pl ([217.79.144.158]:45036 "EHLO ogre.sisk.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754773AbZDRPKT (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:10:19 -0400 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" To: Russell King Subject: Re: 900af0d breaks some embedded suspend/resume Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:09:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (Linux/2.6.30-rc2-rjw; KDE/4.2.2; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Len Brown , Linux Kernel List , Linus Torvalds , pm list , ACPI Devel Maling List References: <20090417231009.GB6900@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <200904181626.10388.rjw@sisk.pl> <20090418144132.GC7148@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090418144132.GC7148@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904181709.47480.rjw@sisk.pl> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 5704 Lines: 163 On Saturday 18 April 2009, Russell King wrote: > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 04:26:09PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Saturday 18 April 2009, Russell King wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 03:23:35PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > The patchset in question had been discussed quite extensively before it was > > > > merged and it's a pity none of the people caring for the affected platforms > > > > took part in those discussions. That would allow us to avoid the breakage. > > > > > > Maybe on some list, but not everyone is subscribed to a million and one > > > mailing lists. I don't have enough time to read those which I'm currently > > > subscribed to, so I definitely don't want any more. > > > > > > > > or provide alternative equivalent functionality where the platform code is > > > > > notified of the PM event prior to the late suspend callback being issued. > > > > > > > > There is the .begin() callback that could be used, but if you need the > > > > platform to be notified _just_ prior to the late suspend callback, then the > > > > only thing I can think of at the moment is the appended patch. > > > > > > > > It shouldn't break anything in theory, because the majority of drivers put > > > > their devices into low power states in the "regular" suspend callbacks anyway. > > > > > > Okay, my requirement is: > > > > > > What I need to be able to do is to suspend most devices on the host side > > > which may involve talking to a separate microcontroller via I2C to shut > > > down power to peripherals. > > > > > > Once that's complete, I then need to inform this microcontroller via I2C > > > that we're going to be entering suspend mode, and wait for it to acknowledge > > > that (after it's done its own suspend preparations). At that point I can > > > shutdown the I2C controller, and enter suspend mode. > > > > Would it be an option to use a sysdev for that? > > No, sysdevs are shut down after IRQs are turned off and the I2C driver > has been shut down. The I2C driver needs IRQs to work in slave mode, > and we need slave mode to work. Hm, but up to and including 2.6.29 we called the late suspend callbacks with interrupts off. Not any more, though. :-) OK > > This patch undoes some previous changes, but I'm not too comfortable with > > it, because I think that putting devices into low power states after > > .prepare() may not work on some ACPI systems. Since devices should > > generally be put into low power states during the "late" suspend (ie. > > when their interrupt handlers are not invoked), it may be quite > > inconvenient. > > Maybe we need yet more levels of callbacks? :P > > Realistically, not all platforms are going to have the same requirements, > so I don't think imposing ACPI requirements (by changing what is a > currently working suspend ordering) on everyone else is not the way > to go. Well, we didn't have the problem before, because the platforms apparently agreed with each other in that respect previously. :-) I generally agree nevertheless. > Maybe we need a way to allow hooks to be placed into the suspend/resume > mechanism in a dynamic way. Eg, define the suspend order as: > > - early device suspend > - normal device suspend > - irqs off > - late device suspend > - sysdev suspend That currently is - normal device suspend - suspend_device_irqs() (in kernel/irq/pm.c) - late device suspend - irqs off - sysdev suspend > and allow hooks into that order to be added. Maybe something like: > > struct pm_hook { > struct list_head node; > unsigned int priority; > int (*suspend)(suspend_state_t); > int (*resume)(suspend_state_t); > }; > > static int early_device_suspend(suspend_state_t state) > { > return device_suspend(PMSG_SUSPEND); > } > > static int early_device_resume(suspend_state_t state) > { > return device_resume(PMSG_RESUME); > } > > static struct pm_hook early_device_hook = { > .priority = SUSP_EARLY_DEVICE, > .suspend = early_device_suspend, > .resume = early_device_resume, > }; > > > int suspend(suspend_state_t state) > { > struct pm_hook *hook; > int err; > > list_for_each(hook, &suspend_hooks, node) { > err = hook->suspend(state); > if (err) { > list_for_each_entry_continue_reverse(hook, &suspend_hooks, node) > hook->resume(state); > break; > } > } > > return err; > } > > where suspend_hooks is an ordered list according to 'priority'. > > This would allow dynamic insertion of platforms suspend/resume requirements > into the PM system. Hmm, what about redefining platform_suspend_ops in the following way: struct platform_suspend_ops { int (*valid)(suspend_state_t state); int (*begin)(suspend_state_t state); int (*devices_suspended)(void); int (*prepare)(void); int (*enter)(suspend_state_t state); void (*wake)(void); int (*resume_devices)(void); void (*end)(void); void (*recover)(void); }; where: * begin() will be called before suspending devices (no change) * devices_suspended() will be called after suspending devices (before suspend_device_irqs()) * prepare() will be callled after the late suspend callbacks * enter() will be called to enter the sleep state (no change) * wake() will be called before the early resume callbacks * resume_devices() will be called before resuming devices (after resume_device_irqs() * end() will be called after resuming devices (no change) I don't think we'll need more platform hooks than that. Thanks, Rafael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/