Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756228AbZD0O55 (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:57:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753468AbZD0O5r (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:57:47 -0400 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.123]:48088 "EHLO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750835AbZD0O5r (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:57:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:57:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Steven Rostedt X-X-Sender: rostedt@gandalf.stny.rr.com To: Davide Libenzi cc: Andi Kleen , Huang Ying , Robert Richter , Ingo Molnar , "H. Peter Anvin" , Thomas Gleixner , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Hidetoshi Seto Subject: Re: Re-implement MCE log ring buffer as per-CPU ring buffer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1240391484.6842.474.camel@yhuang-dev.sh.intel.com> <20090422092259.GC18226@elte.hu> <20090422101600.GL3226@erda.amd.com> <1240553210.6842.871.camel@yhuang-dev.sh.intel.com> <20090424100943.GJ27264@erda.amd.com> <1240818596.6842.1001.camel@yhuang-dev.sh.intel.com> <49F5646F.4000305@linux.intel.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1776 Lines: 42 On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > Once it is filed then I can post it, I do not need to wait till it is > > done. > > > > And what the hell do you mean about not using patents?? We have several > > patents in the kernel. Have you ever heard of the Open Invention Network? > > > > http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/ > > > > This patent will go under the Open Source patent pool to help > > protect against patent attacks against Linux, et. al. > > > > Yes, the Open Source community can file their own patents. The more > > patents owned by the Open Source community, the better. > > IANAL, but what is the point of it? If that's for OSS IP protection > against Evil Corporate claims, isn't the only fact that you posted the > code and algorirthm, constitutes Prior Art, that would automatically > protect your contribution from future claims? Not always. There could be patent applications that have been out before you posted. But what you want is not to be on the defensive side only. If a company comes and attacks you over a patent they own, you pull out all your patents and look to see if the company that is attacking you is using anything you own. As I said, the more patents that the Open Source community owns the better. The Open Invention Network is posed to counter attack any company that tries to attack a free software group. It is not just to counter with prior art, but also threaten the company that is attacking. -- Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/