Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756232AbZD2F7c (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:59:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752374AbZD2F7V (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:59:21 -0400 Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com ([74.125.46.29]:24328 "EHLO yw-out-2324.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750892AbZD2F7U convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:59:20 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o7wblg2+gXDbOoK2wvPy74XHec0CS/nGlrLeshV+7C5d03ZN9QzPtqKg/rLnV7B7gu ofxSLw7rM0Zie1Y9jN0xpOSY7w5eO3e8RHInPnS16w5HMWfQULGDf+wNLgn68wSqtBoO 9u30ud0Bx/+5XfC/1DQynZYok4Cp8nk0v1NAY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090428223624.61e7b255.akpm@linux-foundation.org> References: <21d7e9970904270121s1c58365bqc8933f8a3ffc5f1a@mail.gmail.com> <20090427083935.GA20941@elte.hu> <21d7e9970904270156v54a6483fs20d5b31c97a1d482@mail.gmail.com> <20090428223624.61e7b255.akpm@linux-foundation.org> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:59:19 +1000 Message-ID: <21d7e9970904282259w367c6964ve6fbec9e37771bc0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: kms in defconfig From: Dave Airlie To: Andrew Morton Cc: Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds , LKML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1239 Lines: 31 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:56:27 +1000 Dave Airlie wrote: > >> > KMS is the sane design for graphics and i'd go as far as to consider >> > user-space mode setting an outright _bug_. It look a long time to >> > fix but now lets look forward and fix all the bugs in KMS, ASAP ... >> >> Its mainly for things like Andrews Vaio, people will not expect a new kernel >> to take out any current userspace, its a pain, but we assume distros + people >> who compile their own kernels will know what userspace exists on their >> machines and other will get the least surprise. > > My Vaio thanks you. > > What is the expected user-visible failure mode when someone enables KMS > on naive userspace? ?iow, how can bug report screeners recognise when this has > happened? > > Generally X doesn't start, or X starts but dies soon after, so its fairly easy to nail down from xorg log file and dmesg. Dave. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/