Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:39:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:39:45 -0500 Received: from adsl-63-194-239-202.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net ([63.194.239.202]:28405 "EHLO mmp-linux.matchmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:39:29 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 21:40:25 -0800 From: Mike Fedyk To: Daniel Phillips , Andrew Morton , lkml Subject: Re: [patch] delayed disk block allocation Message-ID: <20020304054025.GH353@matchmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Phillips , Andrew Morton , lkml In-Reply-To: <3C7F3B4A.41DB7754@zip.com.au> <20020304050450.GF353@matchmail.com> <20020303223103.J4188@lynx.adilger.int> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020303223103.J4188@lynx.adilger.int> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 10:31:03PM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote: > On Mar 03, 2002 21:04 -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 03:08:54AM +0100, Daniel Phillips wrote: > > > The main disconnect there is sub-page sized writes, you will bundle together > > > young and old 1K buffers. Since it's getting harder to find a 1K blocksize > > > filesystem, we might not care. > > > > Please don't do that. > > > > Hopefully, once this is in, 1k blocks will work much better. There are many > > cases where people work with lots of small files, and using 1k blocks is bad > > enough, 4k would be worse. > > > > Also, with dhash going into ext2/3 lots of tiny files in one dir will be > > feasible and comparible with reiserfs. > > Actually, there are a whole bunch of performance issues with 1kB block > ext2 filesystems. For very small files, you are probably better off > to have tails in EAs stored with the inode, or with other tails/EAs in > a shared block. We discussed this on ext2-devel a few months ago, and > while the current ext2 EA design is totally unsuitable for that, it > isn't impossible to fix. Great, we're finally heading tward dual sized blocks (or clusters or etc). I'll be looking forward to that. :) Do you think it'll look like block tails (like ffs?) or will it be more like tail packing in reiserfs? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/