Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 04:40:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 04:40:29 -0500 Received: from nydalah028.sn.umu.se ([130.239.118.227]:61331 "EHLO x-files.giron.wox.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 04:40:21 -0500 Message-ID: <003d01c1c360$96194600$0201a8c0@homer> From: "Martin Eriksson" To: "Helge Hafting" , "Florian Weimer" , In-Reply-To: <1015028463.2276.231.camel@thanatos> <87bse7nz8g.fsf@CERT.Uni-Stuttgart.DE> <20020304083055.GB21138@hh.idb.hist.no> Subject: Re: SSSCA: We're in trouble now Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:40:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helge Hafting" To: "Florian Weimer" ; Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:30 AM Subject: Re: SSSCA: We're in trouble now > On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 09:35:43AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > [...] > > That's not necessarily true. Most people cannot circumvent even basic > > obstacles when it comes to computers, and both industry and > > legislative might be content with that. > > Don't be too sure about that. If a "few" knows how to circumvent, > they'll release circumvention kits that anybody can use. > > Few people can use a new buffer overflow exploit, much > more can use a rootkit. Well, even if those who uses a rootkit are many more than those who knows how to use a buffer exploit, that doesn't mean they represent more than 5% of all computer users. My stepfather just recently figured out that you can actually DRAG a window around the desktop. I don't think he will be using a rootkit in some time, and I am pretty sure he don't know anyting about SSSCA, nor will he, nor will he be able to understand if I told him. (btw. I might very well be ~69.5% off topic now, as I missed some of the conversation) _____________________________________________________ | Martin Eriksson | MSc CSE student, department of Computing Science | Ume? University, Sweden - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/