Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753831AbZFDS51 (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:57:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751327AbZFDS5U (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:57:20 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:54677 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751060AbZFDS5T (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:57:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:53:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds X-X-Sender: torvalds@localhost.localdomain To: Christian Tramnitz cc: Ingo Molnar , Steven Rostedt , George Dunlap , David Miller , "jeremy@goop.org" , Dan Magenheimer , "avi@redhat.com" , "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , "x86@kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Keir Fraser , "gregkh@suse.de" , "kurt.hackel@oracle.com" , Ian Pratt , "xen-users@lists.xensource.com" , ksrinivasan , "EAnderson@novell.com" , "wimcoekaerts@wimmekes.net" , Stephen Spector , jens.axboe@oracle.com Subject: Re: Merge Xen (the hypervisor) into Linux In-Reply-To: <4A262F4B.8010404@tramnitz.com> Message-ID: References: <162f4c90-6431-4a2a-b337-6d7451d7b11e@default> <20090528001350.GD26820@elte.hu> <4A1F302E.8030501@goop.org> <20090528.210559.137121893.davem@davemloft.net> <4A1FCE8E.2060604@eu.citrix.com> <20090602224051.GB32428@goodmis.org> <20090602232843.GA6577@elte.hu> <4A262F4B.8010404@tramnitz.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (LFD 1184 2008-12-16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 920 Lines: 22 On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Christian Tramnitz wrote: > > What a great idea, and while we're doing this let's also drop support > for legacy stuff like PATA and i8042 in mainline. Noone will need it > anyway because their successors are on the market for years... let's > just take it for granted that everyone is using SATA and USB nowadays! Have you noticed how PATA and i8042 don't screw up anything else? You're totally missing the problem. If Xen was a single driver thing, we wouldn't have this discussion. But as is, Xen craps all over OTHER PEOPLES CODE. When those people then aren't interested in Xen, why is anybody surprised that people aren't excited? Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/