Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:15:07 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:14:57 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:21000 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:14:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3C8518AE.B44AF2D5@zip.com.au> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 11:12:46 -0800 From: Andrew Morton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.19-pre2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arjan van de Ven CC: Andrea Arcangeli , Rik van Riel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.4.19pre1aa1 In-Reply-To: <20020305161032.F20606@dualathlon.random> <20020305192604.J20606@dualathlon.random>, <20020305192604.J20606@dualathlon.random>; from andrea@suse.de on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 07:26:04PM +0100 <20020305183053.A27064@fenrus.demon.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 07:26:04PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > > Another approch would be to add the pages backing the bh into the lru > > too, but then we'd need to mess with the slab and new bitflags, new > > methods and so I don't think it's the best solution. The only good > > reason for putting new kind of entries in the lru would be to age them > > too the same way as the other pages, but we don't need that with the bh > > (they're just in, and we mostly care only about the page age, not the bh > > age). > > For 2.5 I kind of like this idea. There is one issue though: to make > this work really well we'd probably need a ->prepareforfreepage() > or similar page op (which for page cache pages can be equal to writepage() > ) which the vm can use to prepare this page for freeing. If we stop using buffer_heads for pagecache I/O, we don't have this problem. I'm showing a 20% reduction in CPU load for large reads. Which is a *lot*, given that read load is dominated by copy_to_user. 2.5 is significantly less efficient than 2.4 at this time. Some of that seems to be due to worsened I-cache footprint, and a lot of it is due to the way buffer_heads now have a BIO wrapper layer. Take a look at submit_bh(). The writing is on the wall, guys. - - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/