Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752720AbZFKVY0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:24:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750851AbZFKVYT (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:24:19 -0400 Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk ([195.41.46.236]:60993 "EHLO pfepb.post.tele.dk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750758AbZFKVYS (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:24:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:26:35 +0200 From: Sam Ravnborg To: Marcel Holtmann Cc: Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds , Martin Bligh , Christoph Hellwig , Peter Zijlstra , Al Viro , "David S. Miller" , Stephane Eranian , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras , Andrew Morton , Thomas Gleixner Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Performance Counters for Linux Message-ID: <20090611212635.GA9446@uranus.ravnborg.org> References: <20090611165226.GV8633@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <1244739378.6691.540.camel@laptop> <20090611170015.GA3651@infradead.org> <33307c790906111124m17e57332oc38c89fa70e39231@mail.gmail.com> <20090611202341.GA23590@elte.hu> <1244753357.27363.82.camel@violet> <20090611210810.GA9317@uranus.ravnborg.org> <1244755036.27363.93.camel@violet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1244755036.27363.93.camel@violet> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1764 Lines: 40 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:17:16PM +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > Hi Sam, > > > > So you are saying that only good code comes from including it into > > > linux-2.6.git and otherwise you will never get there. Have you actually > > > tried to maintain this in a separate repository on kernel.org? > > > > Could you please remind us what the arguments agains including a few > > seleted tools within the kernel source tree was. > > > > I ask because I really cannot see why so much nosie is generated? > > As a naive user that like easy access to the stuff I work with > > this looks like an optimal place to find the kernel-hacking > > tools I need. Why should I hunt somewhere else to find it? > > I personally would expect a perf.git on kernel.org for the userspace > tools for it. Like we have udev.git there, iproute2.git and others. > > Seems to be working perfectly fine (except of course oprofile) and makes > packaging and security updates a lot easier. There is nothing preventing us from adding support for rpm and source rpms. So you just grab the relevant tre and issue a few cammnds and you have your packages. And for security fixes we have the stable kernels. > The distros have always a > really hard problem with releasing new kernel packages. There is nothing that say that because the code live inside the kernel tree you _have_to_ release the full kernel source to release a tool. You mix up the fact that the source for the tool live inside the kernel with the way tools are packaged. Sam -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/