Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:16:42 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:16:32 -0500 Received: from mtao2.east.cox.net ([68.1.17.243]:38133 "EHLO lakemtao02.cox.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:16:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3C865CED.F16FAA0F@randomlogic.com> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 10:16:13 -0800 From: "Paul G. Allen" Organization: Random Logic X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.17 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "Linux kernel developer's mailing list" Subject: Re: SSSCA: We're in trouble now In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input)@localhost.localdomain Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Rik van Riel wrote: > > On 5 Mar 2002, Trever L. Adams wrote: > > On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 23:26, Petro wrote: > > > Do what they tell you, or go to jail. (Well, there is a third > > > choice, but it would best not be discussed here). > > > > And for the safety of those in the USA and around the world, > > particularly on this list... it is best not to even think about it... > > Wasn't the second amendment created for this purpose ? > Exactly. Last I checked, I can still say and think what I want, but in some cases it's the way you say it that matters. Your actions also have bearing on your speach - just saying you're going to revolt is different than saying it and then actually trying it. I DO NOT have to do what they tell me, as the Constitution specifically limits what they can tell me to do. Sure, they can try, they can even break the law (as the SSSCA and DMCA do) and tell me to do it anyway, and throw me in jail for not doing it. The problem - and here I am repeating myself again - is that too many people _allow_ themselves to be told what to do when what they are being told is blatantly against the law. It comes down to the Fear Factor once again, and THAT, I think, is the major driving force behind government (or other) control. The first reason the SSSCA will pass (if it does), and the reason the DMCA did pass, is due to the fact that most people outside of the technical "geek" community not only didn't (or don't) understand it, but that they have never even heard of it. The second reason is because those who do know and understand, kept (or keep) their mouths shut and don't inform those who don't. The third, at least in this country, is the piss poor voter participation. Yesterday within 5 min. - the time it took me to go to the polls, vote, and come home - I met no less than 5 people who freely admitted to not voting and appearing to be proud of it. But that's another issue altogether, and borders on OT. PGA -- Paul G. Allen Owner, Sr. Engineer, Security Specialist Random Logic/Dream Park www.randomlogic.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/