Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:18:16 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:17:56 -0500 Received: from altus.drgw.net ([209.234.73.40]:26123 "EHLO altus.drgw.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:17:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:17:01 -0600 From: Troy Benjegerdes To: Pavel Machek Cc: Larry McVoy , Kent Borg , The Open Source Club at The Ohio State University , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, opensource@cis.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers Message-ID: <20020307101701.S1682@altus.drgw.net> In-Reply-To: <20020305165233.A28212@fireball.zosima.org> <20020305163809.D1682@altus.drgw.net> <20020305165123.V12235@work.bitmover.com> <20020306095434.B6599@borg.org> <20020306085646.F15303@work.bitmover.com> <20020306221305.GA370@elf.ucw.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020306221305.GA370@elf.ucw.cz>; from pavel@ucw.cz on Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:13:05PM +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:13:05PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > > I also dislike the irony of BK being proprietary. Sure, they might > > > have an enlightened and generous attitude not, but PGP used to be > > > free, then it became kinda free and then it became orphaned. Luckily > > > GPG came along, luckily PGP didn't have a monoploy on our history. > > > > PGP didn't have a business model, we do, and part of our business model > > is to give it away to some of the world. It's a good business model, > > BK is dramatically better because the PPC team used it and Cort went > > through all sorts of stuff as BK improved. BK would easily be a > > year > > So you basically give bk for free because it is good for you. What if > it will stop being good for you ten years from now? Then we move on to another system. This is why I think we need some kind of gateway to another SCM. If BK goes away, we could export everything to tarballs and patches or whatever, but it would be a large PITA, and stop lots of people's development for awhile. (I've done bk->cvs this way once before, it was really ugly, and I never want to do it again given the choice). I'd really like everyone that's bitching about BK to shut the hell up and go work on some scripts to allow a maintainer to easily manage a BK<->$OTHER_SCM gateway. Either give me a working alternative to BK or go run for political office. Until I see an alternative, I'm going to continue advocating for real developers to use BK, and complainers to show me an alternative. -- Troy Benjegerdes | master of mispeeling | 'da hozer' | hozer@drgw.net -----"If this message isn't misspelled, I didn't write it" -- Me ----- "Why do musicians compose symphonies and poets write poems? They do it because life wouldn't have any meaning for them if they didn't. That's why I draw cartoons. It's my life." -- Charles Schulz - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/