Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:24:42 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:24:33 -0500 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org ([207.109.151.240]:4224 "EHLO vger.timpanogas.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:24:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:37:07 -0700 From: "Jeff V. Merkey" To: Linus Torvalds Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: kernel debuggers (was Bitkeeper Bashing) Message-ID: <20020307143707.A725@vger.timpanogas.org> In-Reply-To: <20020305165233.A28212@fireball.zosima.org> <20020306095434.B6599@borg.org> <20020306085646.F15303@work.bitmover.com> <20020306221305.GA370@elf.ucw.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 07:18:15PM +0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > And I personally refuse to use inferior tools because of ideology. In > fact, I will go as far as saying that making excuses for bad tools > due to ideology is _stupid_, and people who do that think with their > gonads, not their brains. Linus, A reasonable explanation. However, this begs the question as to **WHY** you are so opposed to kernel debuggers in Linux. Code reviews don't catch hardware bugs or other types of performance issues related to bus architecture, etc. Opposition to a kernel debugger in Linux, at least from the view of some folks, is a case of someone using inferior methods because of ideaology. Not meant as a recrimination, but you've just made the case for kernel debuggers in Linux. :-) Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/