Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759574AbZFWQ2Y (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:28:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756963AbZFWQ2Q (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:28:16 -0400 Received: from outbound-mail-09.bluehost.com ([69.89.17.209]:47857 "HELO outbound-mail-09.bluehost.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1753990AbZFWQ2P convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:28:15 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=virtuousgeek.org; h=Received:Date:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=IPvEq4xRbpSoLvkxm+zzyFX80tApncuAtWOfhk5AidZCjfKLRr+wct2cOnWaWPqAu5KLHkQ3o8t9MD2cHxd732poNFzMv5fW9tjjjVumLSa2rYZe2oHy1+R6QB7h/Yjw; Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:28:12 -0700 From: Jesse Barnes Cc: Michel =?UTF-8?B?RMOkbnplcg==?= , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Thomas@netline-mail2.netline.ch, Dave Airlie , Andrew Lutomirski , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Jerome Glisse , dri-devel@lists.sf.net, Alex Deucher , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [git pull] drm: previous pull req + 1. Message-ID: <20090623092812.16dffa97@jbarnes-g45> In-Reply-To: <20090623083944.3e86ed2e@jbarnes-g45> References: <4A3DABE1.50309@mit.edu> <4A3F3E3A.2030202@shipmail.org> <1245715213.4017.13.camel@pasglop> <1245719079.4017.25.camel@pasglop> <20090622181832.771dac03@jbarnes-g45> <1245743280.5580.2203.camel@thor.local> <20090623083944.3e86ed2e@jbarnes-g45> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Identified-User: {10642:box514.bluehost.com:virtuous:virtuousgeek.org} {sentby:smtp auth 75.111.28.251 authed with jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org} To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1305 Lines: 29 On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:39:44 -0700 Jesse Barnes wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:48:00 +0200 > Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On a side note, I did precisely that about ten years ago on my > > Amiga. :) Granted, that was using two separate framebuffer devices > > (X glint driver on top of pm2fb, debug messages on amifb), but I > > think even that case isn't possible ATM. I agree it would be nice, > > though realistically there's hardly a way around a second machine > > for graphics driver development anyway. > > Oh I know, most operating systems have reasonable debugging > facilities, and have had for a long time. Linux is the one lagging > here. > Heh, I saw "amiga" and stopped reading. So it seems Linux on x86 is the main laggard here... I know PPC has had interesting debug features for awhile now, and most arches have had kgdb for a long time. Anyway, there's plenty of work to do in this area to give Linux a decent system level debugger... -- Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/