Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753573AbZFXWHg (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:07:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752049AbZFXWH1 (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:07:27 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:46244 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751663AbZFXWH1 (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:07:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:07:14 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Linus Torvalds Cc: penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, arjan@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cl@linux-foundation.org, npiggin@suse.de Subject: Re: upcoming kerneloops.org item: get_page_from_freelist Message-Id: <20090624150714.c7264768.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20090624080753.4f677847@infradead.org> <20090624094622.d0b0fd82.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <84144f020906240955h5e26a248scc61439c1ca36023@mail.gmail.com> <20090624105517.904f93da.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <4A426825.80905@cs.helsinki.fi> <20090624113037.7d72ed59.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090624120617.1e6799b5.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090624123624.26c93459.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090624130121.99321cca.akpm@linux-foundation.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.4 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2162 Lines: 66 On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > > > If the caller gets oom-killed, the allocation attempt fails. Callers need > > > to handle that. > > > > I actually disagree. I think we should just admit that we can always free > > up enough space to get a few pages, in order to then oom-kill things. > > Btw, if you want to change the WARN_ON() to warn when you're in the > "allocate in order to free memory" recursive case, then I'd have no issues > with that. > > In fact, in that case it probably shouldn't even be conditional on the > order. > > So a > > WARN_ON_ONCE((p->flags & PF_MEMALLOC) && (gfpmask & __GFP_NOFAIL)); > > actually makes tons of sense. I suspect that warning will trigger. alloc_pages -> ... -> pageout -> ... -> get_request -> blk_alloc_request -> elv_set_request -> cfq_set_request -> cfq_get_queue -> cfq_find_alloc_queue -> kmem_cache_alloc_node(__GFP_NOFAIL) -> Jens How much this can happen in practice I don't know, but it looks bad. > There are other cases where __GFP_NOFAIL doesn't make sense too, and that > could be warned about. The __GFP_NORETRY thing was already mentioned. > Similarly, !__GFP_WAIT doesn't work with __GFP_NOFAIL - because the nofail > obviously relies on being able to do something about the failure case. > > We might want to also have rules like "in order to have NOFAIL, you need > to allow IO and FS accesses". Sure, that's sane. fs/jbd/journal.c: new_bh = alloc_buffer_head(GFP_NOFS|__GFP_NOFAIL); But that isn't :( > So I don't mind warnings with __GFP_NOFAIL. I just think they should be > relevant, and make sense. The "order > 0" one is neither. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/