Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754727AbZF3NSa (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:18:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751606AbZF3NSW (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:18:22 -0400 Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.82]:24889 "EHLO mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750892AbZF3NSW (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:18:22 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 599 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:18:21 EDT X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,316,1243807200"; d="scan'208";a="32211339" Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:08:22 +0200 From: Samuel Thibault To: Greg KH Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC] accessibility, speakup, speech synthesis & /sys Message-ID: <20090630130822.GR6405@const.bordeaux.inria.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Samuel Thibault , Greg KH , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20090625220452.GF5540@const.famille.thibault.fr> <20090630041833.GA13034@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090630041833.GA13034@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1941 Lines: 52 Hello, Greg KH, le Mon 29 Jun 2009 21:18:33 -0700, a ?crit : > > I believe there are two things: > > > > - per- harware speech synthesizer parameters (e.g. speed, pitch, etc.) > > - screen reading parameters (e.g. characters pronunciation, key_echo, > > current synthesizer being used etc.) > > > > Speech synthesizers should probably have their own device class, how > > should it be called? "synth"? "speech"? > > Which do you think it should? Speakup used to call them "synth", but anything else than speech could be synthesized, so speech may be better. > > Then there are the screen reading parameters. I'd tend to think that > > like there are /sys/{block,firmware,fs,power}, there could be a > > /sys/accessibility, or even shorter, /sys/a11y? Speakup parameters > > could then be in /sys/a11y/speakup? > > Wouldn't these be on a "per-screen" basis? Mmm, what do you call a screen? I guess you mean /sys/class/vtconsole/vtcon0? It would make sense indeed. > So they would live under the screen reader device itself, not way up > high in the device tree. One problem is usability. That's something that users will often want to tune, and /sys/a11y/speakup/key_echo is definitely easier for the very common case of one head, than /sys/class/vtconsole/vtcon0/reader/speakup/key_echo :) > Actually, you are proposing them outside of the device tree, which I > do not think you want at all. It depends on what you call a "device". It's probably not obvious that a screen reader is a device, but why not. > What specific files are you thinking you would need? There are a lot of them actually, like 20, tuning various aspects of reading what happens on the console. Samuel -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/