Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753671AbZGBAnp (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:43:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752513AbZGBAnh (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:43:37 -0400 Received: from fgwmail7.fujitsu.co.jp ([192.51.44.37]:38811 "EHLO fgwmail7.fujitsu.co.jp" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751921AbZGBAng (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:43:36 -0400 X-SecurityPolicyCheck-FJ: OK by FujitsuOutboundMailChecker v1.3.1 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:41:38 +0900 From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki To: Andrew Morton Cc: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman), Amerigo Wang , tao.ma@oracle.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, adobriyan@gmail.com, mtk.manpages@gmail.com, Yasunori Goto Subject: Re: [RESEND Patch] kcore: remove its pointless size Message-Id: <20090702094138.f86ead92.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> In-Reply-To: <20090701171249.004968e8.akpm@linux-foundation.org> References: <20090613040958.GA2959@cr0> <2375c9f90906160829g3d605836yb4c5b9beeac50c5f@mail.gmail.com> <20090618030051.GA6133@cr0.nay.redhat.com> <20090618044055.GB6133@cr0.nay.redhat.com> <20090622085405.GA6499@cr0.nay.redhat.com> <20090630100850.GD5873@cr0.nay.redhat.com> <20090701144742.6ce3535b.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090701171249.004968e8.akpm@linux-foundation.org> Organization: FUJITSU Co. LTD. X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2393 Lines: 73 On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:12:49 -0700 Andrew Morton wrote: > On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:25:05 -0700 ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) wrote: > > Which is better than showing a random number of dubious relationship > > to the size we normally show. That code is just a maintenance problem. > > Well it's not just that st_size is wrong before the first read. It's > also wrong after memory hot-add, up until the next read. > And I found kclist_add() is not called at memory hotplug... > > > If so, should we run get_kcore_size() in proc_kcore_init(), perhaps? > > > > > > In fact, do we need to run get_kcore_size() more than once per boot? > > > > > > AFAICT we only run kclist_add() during bootup, so if proc_kcore_init() > > > is called at the appropriate time, we can permanently cache its result? > > > > > > In which case get_kcore_size() and kclist_add() can be marked __init. > > > > > > Maybe that's all wrong - I didn't look terribly closely. > > > > Memory hot add I expect is the excuse. There is more that could be > > done. But this patch is an obvious bit of chipping away nonsense > > code. > > We have the infrastructure to get this right, I think: > > - run > > proc_root_kcore->size = get_kcore_size(...) > > within proc_kcore_init() > yes, seems sane. > - register a memory-hotplug notifier and each time memory goes online > or offline, rerun > > proc_root_kcore->size = get_kcore_size(...) > yes. and we need kclist_add() under memory hotplug. > - stop running get_kcore_size() within read_kcore(). > > I suspect that read_kcore() will not behave well if a memory hotplug > operation happens concurrently. But that's a separate problem. > > (hopefully cc's some memory-hotplug people) > Maybe no problem. I don't think people does memory hotplug while he reads /proc/kcore. (It sounds like modify coredump while investigating it.) Thanks, -Kame > > Or we just leave /proc/kcore's st_size at zero. It's a pretty hopeless > exercise trying to get this "right", as nobody can safely _use_ that > size - it can be wrong as soon as the caller has read from it. > > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/