Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758744AbZGHFqJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Jul 2009 01:46:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752488AbZGHFp6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Jul 2009 01:45:58 -0400 Received: from mail-yx0-f188.google.com ([209.85.210.188]:42909 "EHLO mail-yx0-f188.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752180AbZGHFp5 convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Jul 2009 01:45:57 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=x6tmNO5ibY0x7p0g4XRUGmKpoxEAPyqcDpxXxXi4d9oqnbM8gO6ppTNLB4Ox9FrQqP NqBIdVSBLxLFMz5Gm6BtcSOXuQL/XtZv+LRsQRN9EVkxmwqk0A/7xMi2k3kH+daEGfSY 5d/lRh8ohgNansSe2h4xYNiOhuE6PrkMwOCzM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200907080007.38595.rjw@sisk.pl> References: <200907060252.12755.rjw@sisk.pl> <200907080007.38595.rjw@sisk.pl> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:45:54 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] PM: Introduce core framework for run-time PM of I/O devices (rev. 8) From: Magnus Damm To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" Cc: Alan Stern , Linux-pm mailing list , Greg KH , LKML , ACPI Devel Maling List , Ingo Molnar , Arjan van de Ven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 5965 Lines: 138 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Tuesday 07 July 2009, Magnus Damm wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > There's a rev. 8 of the run-time PM framework patch. >> All good with the code above, but there seem to be some issue with how >> usage_count is counted up and down and when runtime_disabled is set: >> >> 1. pm_runtime_init(): usage_count = 1, runtime_disabled = true >> 2. driver_probe_device(): pm_runtime_get_sync() >> 3. pm_runtime_get_sync(): usage_count = 2 >> 4. device driver probe(): pm_runtime_enable() >> 5. pm_runtime_enable(): usage_count = 1 >> 6. driver_probe_device(): pm_runtime_put() >> 7. pm_runtime_put(): usage_count = 0 >> >> I expect runtime_disabled = false in 7. Modifying the get/put calls to >> do enable/disable may work around the issue, but that's probably not >> what you guys want. > > Sure, that's my mistake. ?I should have used a separate counter for > disable/enable, but I thought usage_counter would be sufficient. ?Will fix. Thank you. No problem. >> Issue 2: >> ------------ >> I cannot get any bus ->runtime_resume() callbacks from probe(). This >> also seems related to usage_count and pm_runtime_get_sync() in >> driver_probe_device(). Basically, from probe(), calling >> pm_runtime_resume() after pm_runtime_set_suspended() results in error >> and not in a ->runtime_resume() callback. Some device drives access >> hardware in probe(), so the ->runtime_resume() callback is needed at >> that point to turn on clocks before the hardware can be accessed. > > I think the problem is that pm_runtime_get_sync() in driver_probe_device() > calls ->runtime_resume(), so the device is active from the core's point of > view when you call pm_runtime_resume() from probe(). > > Hmm. ?OK, perhaps we should just increment usage_count in > driver_device_probe() to prevent suspends from happening at that time, without > calling ->runtime_resume() so that the driver can do it by itself. ?I'll do > that in the next version. Sounds good. >> Random thought: >> ------------------------- >> The runtime_pm_get() and runtime_pm_put() look very nice. I assume >> that inteface is supposed to be used by bus code. I wonder if it would >> be cleaner to use a similar counter based interface from the driver >> instead of the pm_runtime_idle()/suspend()/resume()... >> >> Let me know what you think! > > In fact I thought drivers could also use pm_runtime_[get|put]() and the 'sync' > versions. ?At least, I don't see why not at the moment (well, I'm a bit tired > right now ...). I think that's a nicer interface, but I must figure out how to use ->runtime_idle before I can switch to that... > However, I'm now thinking it should work like this: > > * pm_runtime_get() increments usage_count and if it was zero before the > ?incrementation, it calls pm_request_resume() (pm_runtime_resume() is called > ?by the 'sync' version). > > * pm_runtime_put() decrements usage_count and if it's zero after the > ?decrementation, it calls pm_request_idle() (pm_runtime_idle() is called by > ?the 'sync' version). > > * The 'suspend' callbacks won't succeed for usage_count > 0. > > This way we would avoid calling the 'suspend' and 'idle' functions each time > unnecessarily, but then usage_count would have to be modified under the > spinlock only. If all usage_count users are moved under the spinlock then there would be no need for atomic operations, right? This get()/put() interface is interesting. So I'd like to tie in two levels of power management in our runtime PM implementation. The most simple level is clock stopping, and I can do that using the bus callbacks ->runtime_suspend() and ->runtime_resume() with v8. The driver runtime callbacks are never invoked for clock stopping. On top of the clock stopping I'd like to turn off power to the domain. So if all clocks are stopped to the devices within a domain, then I'd like to call the per-device ->runtime_suspend() callbacks provided by the drivers. I wonder how to fit these two levels of power management into the runtime PM in a nice way. My first attempts simply made use of pm_runtime_resume() and pm_runtime_suspend(), but I'd like to move to get()/put() if possible. But for that to work I need to implement ->runtime_idle() in my bus code, and I wonder if the current runtime PM idle behaviour is a good fit. Below is how I'd like to make use of the runtime PM code. I'm not sure if it's compatible with your view. =) Drivers call pm_runtime_get_sync() and pm_runtime_put() before and after using the hardware. The runtime PM code invokes the bus ->runtime_idle() callback ASAP (of course depending on put() or put_sync(), but no timer). The bus->runtime_idle() callback stops the clock and decreases the power domain usage count. If the power domain is unused, then the pm_schedule_suspend() is called for each of the devices in the power domain. This in turn will invoke the ->runtime_suspend() callback which starts the clock, calls the driver ->runtime_suspend() and stops the clock again. When all devices are runtime suspended the power domain is turned off. I can't get the above to work with v8 though. This is because after the clock is stopped with ->runtime_idle() the runtime_status of the device is still RPM_ACTIVE, so when pm_runtime_get_sync() gets called the ->runtime_resume() never gets invoked and the clock is never started... So I don't know if you think the ->runtime_idle usage above is a good plan. I guess no, it's probably quite different from the USB case. I can of course always skip using ->runtime_idle() and just use suspend()/resume(). Any thoughts? Thanks, / magnus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/