Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:26:01 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:25:51 -0500 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:21677 "EHLO bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:25:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:25:38 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: "Randy.Dunlap" Cc: Larry McVoy , Rik van Riel , "Jonathan A. George" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Kernel SCM: When does CVS fall down where it REALLY matters? Message-ID: <20020311092538.U26447@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , "Randy.Dunlap" , Larry McVoy , Rik van Riel , "Jonathan A. George" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20020311090512.N26447@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from rddunlap@osdl.org on Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 09:12:31AM -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 09:12:31AM -0800, Randy.Dunlap wrote: > On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Larry McVoy wrote: > > | On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 08:59:47PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: > | > 3) graphical 2-way merging tool like bitkeeper has > | > (this might not seem essential to people who have > | > never used it, but it has saved me many many hours) > | > | I haven't verified this, but I suspect what Rik is using is the 3-way > | file merge. If it looks like > | > | http://www.bitkeeper.com/newmerge.gif > | > | that's a 3 way file merge, the 2 big side by side windows are showing > | you 3 diffs, the diff from the ancestor to the local version in the left > | window, the diff from the ancestor to the remote version in the right > | window, and then side by side diffs in that they are lined up. > | > | If Rik is using the 2 way file merge and likes that, he's in for a quantum > | leap in productivity, commercial customers have reported as much as an > | 18:1 productivity increase from the 3 way file merge. > > Just curious, how is this productivity increase measured? They redid the same really nasty merge with the old tools, with Sun's file merge, and the new filemerge. It was a bit more than 18x faster with the new file merge. This same customer site, which hacks the kernel by the way, claims that well over 90% of their BK usage is spent merging, so the productivity gains in merging are translated almost 1:1 into wall clock gains. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/