Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760944AbZGIOWA (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:22:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1760921AbZGIOVx (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:21:53 -0400 Received: from waste.org ([66.93.16.53]:48225 "EHLO waste.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1760629AbZGIOVw (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:21:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] netpoll: Fix carrier detection for drivers that are using phylib From: Matt Mackall To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Linus Torvalds , Anton Vorontsov , Andrew Morton , oleg@redhat.com, mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <1247147206.7439.2.camel@twins> References: <20090707235812.GA12824@oksana.dev.rtsoft.ru> <20090708005000.GA12380@redhat.com> <1247034263.9777.24.camel@twins> <20090708141024.f8b581c5.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090708213331.GA9346@oksana.dev.rtsoft.ru> <20090708144744.5555b88d.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090708222003.GA12318@oksana.dev.rtsoft.ru> <1247145977.21295.899.camel@calx> <1247147206.7439.2.camel@twins> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:18:13 -0500 Message-Id: <1247149093.21295.915.camel@calx> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3082 Lines: 77 On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 15:46 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 08:26 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 17:01 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 9 Jul 2009, Anton Vorontsov wrote: > > > > > > > > The netpoll code is using msleep() just a few lines below cond_resched(), > > > > so we won't make things worse. ;-) > > > > > > Yeah. That function is definitely sleeping. It does things like > > > kmalloc(GFP_KERNEL), rtnl_lock() and synchronize_rcu() etc too, so an > > > added msleep() is the least of our problems. > > > > > > Afaik, it's called from a bog-standard "module_init()", which happens late > > > enough that everything works. > > > > > > In fact, I wonder if we should set SYSTEM_RUNNING much earlier - _before_ > > > doing the whole "do_initcalls()". > > > > Well there are two ways of consistently defining SYSTEM_RUNNING: > > > > a) define it with reference to the well-understood notion of booting vs > > running and don't switch it until handing off to init > > This makes the most sense IMHO. > > > b) define it with reference to its usage by an arbitrary user like > > cond_resched() > > > > In the latter case, we obviously need to move it to the earliest point > > that scheduling is possible. But there are a number of things like > > > > http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.30/kernel/printk.c#L228 > > > > that assume the definition is actually (a). We're currently within a > > couple lines of a strict definition of (a) already, so I actually think > > cond_resched() is just wrong (and we already know it broke a > > previously-working user). It should perhaps be using another private > > flag that gets set as soon as scheduling is up and running. > > Right as mentioned before in this thread, we grew scheduler_running a > while back which could be used for this. > > > But I'd actually go further and say that it's unfortunate to be checking > > extra flags in such an important inline, especially since the check is > > false for all but the first couple seconds of run time. Seems like we > > could avoid adding an extra check by artificially elevating the preempt > > count in early boot (or at compile time) then dropping it when > > scheduling becomes available. > > Calling cond_resched() and co when !preemptable is an error so this > wouldn't actually work. Sorry if I was unclear. I'm suggesting setting the count so the existing PREEMPT_ACTIVE test here fires: int __sched _cond_resched(void) { if (need_resched() && !(preempt_count() & PREEMPT_ACTIVE) && system_state == SYSTEM_RUNNING) { __cond_resched(); return 1; } return 0; } That should be kosher. -- http://selenic.com : development and support for Mercurial and Linux -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/