Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:43:07 +0200
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: mitake@dcl.info.waseda.ac.jp, andi@firstfloor.org, fweisbec@gmail.com,
       acme@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Adding information of counts processes acquired
	how many spinlocks to schedstat
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* Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:

> On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 21:45 +0900, mitake@dcl.info.waseda.ac.jp wrote:
> > From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Adding information of counts processes acquired how many spinlocks to schedstat
> > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:54:51 +0200
> > 
> > Thank you for your replying, Peter and Andi.
> > 
> > > > Maybe re-use the LOCK_CONTENDED macros for this, but I'm not sure we
> > > > want to go there and put code like this on the lock hot-paths for !debug
> > > > kernels.
> > > 
> > > My concern was similar.
> > > 
> > > I suspect it would be in theory ok for the slow spinning path, but I am 
> > > somewhat concerned about the additional cache miss for checking
> > > the global flag even in this case. This could hurt when
> > > the kernel is running fully cache hold, in that the cache miss
> > > might be far more expensive that  short spin.
> > 
> > Yes, there will be overhead. This is certain.
> > But there's the radical way to ignore this,
> > adding subcategory to Kconfig for measuring spinlocks and #ifdef to spinlock.c.
> > So people who wants to avoid this overhead can disable measurement of spinlocks completely.
> > 
> > And there's another way to avoid the overhead of measurement. 
> > Making _spin_lock variable of function pointer. When you don't 
> > want to measure spinlocks, assign _spin_lock_raw() which is 
> > equals to current _spin_lock(). When you want to measure 
> > spinlocks, assign _spin_lock_perf() which locks and measures. 
> > This way will banish the cache miss problem you said. I think 
> > this may be useful for avoiding problem of recursion.
> 
> We already have that, its called CONFIG_LOCKDEP && 
> CONFIG_EVENT_TRACING && CONFIG_EVENT_PROFILE, with those enabled 
> you get tracepoints on every lock acquire and lock release, and 
> perf can already use those as event sources.

Yes, that could be reused for this facility too.

	Ingo
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