Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 21:54:41 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 21:54:21 -0500 Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.50]:59369 "EHLO avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 21:54:18 -0500 Message-ID: <01a901c1c971$307d25c0$1125a8c0@wednesday> From: "J. Dow" To: "Linus Torvalds" , "Jeff Garzik" Cc: , "Bill Davidsen" , "LKML" In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [patch] My AMD IDE driver, v2.7 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:54:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: "Linus Torvalds" > Yeah yeah. You can add additional levels of protection, and we have > capabilities. > > Add a special password-protected capability, so that only YOU can enable > certain hardware access stuff. Where does it end? Is one such capability > enough? How do you initialize the default values for the system if you > need to be there to type in the password at bootup every time? We're > talking about some rather fundamental things here, and these are issues > that go _far_ beyond some silly ATA stack layer. Linus, this discussion hung on long enough I decided to start reading it. So I may have missed something. However, I notice you speak of a networking example. I believe it is a strawman. The real comparison is closer to that between IDE and SCSI. Do the SCSI device drivers filter? What and how do they filter if they do at all? Aren't they a better model to adopt for a system consistent interface philosophy? {^_^} Joanne Dow, jdow@earthlink.net - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/