Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:32:09 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:32:05 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:8966 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:31:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3C8E6544.1AE28413@zip.com.au> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:29:56 -0800 From: Andrew Morton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.19-pre2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Phillips CC: lkml Subject: Re: [CFT] delayed allocation and multipage I/O patches for 2.5.6. In-Reply-To: <3C8D9999.83F991DB@zip.com.au>, <3C8D9999.83F991DB@zip.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Daniel Phillips wrote: > > On March 12, 2002 07:00 am, Andrew Morton wrote: > > Identifies readahead thrashing. > > > > Currently, it just performs a shrink on the readahead window when thrashing > > occurs. This greatly reduces the amount of pointless I/O which we perform, > > and will reduce the CPU load. The idea is that the readahead window > > dynamically adjusts to a sustainable size. It improves things, but not > > hugely, experimentally. > > The question is, does it wipe out a nasty corner case? If so then the improvement > for the averge case is just a nice fringe benefit. A carefully constructed test > that triggers the corner case would be most interesting. > There are many test scenarios. The one I use is: - 64 megs of memory. - Process A loops across N 10-megabyte files, reading 4k from each one and terminates when all N files are fully read. - Process B loops, repeatedly reading a one gig file off another disk. The total wallclock time for process A exhibits *massive* step jumps as you vary N. In stock 2.5.6 the runtime jumps from 40 seconds to ten minutes when N is increased from 40 to 60. With my changes, the rate of increase of runtime-versus-N is lower, and happens at later N. But it's still very sudden and very bad. Yes, it's a known-and-nasty corner case. Worth fixing if the fix is clean. But IMO the problem is not common enough to justify significantly compromising the common case. - - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/