Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:07:15 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:07:05 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:1553 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:06:53 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 01:06:52 +0000 From: wli@holomorphy.com To: Andrew Morton Cc: Andrea Arcangeli , wli@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, "Richard B. Johnson" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@surriel.com, hch@infradead.org, phillips@bonn-fries.net Subject: Re: 2.4.19pre2aa1 Message-ID: <20020313010652.F14628@holomorphy.com> Mail-Followup-To: wli@holomorphy.com, Andrew Morton , Andrea Arcangeli , wli@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, "Richard B. Johnson" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@surriel.com, hch@infradead.org, phillips@bonn-fries.net In-Reply-To: <20020312041958.C687@holomorphy.com> <20020312070645.X10413@dualathlon.random> <20020312112900.A14628@holomorphy.com> <20020312135605.P25226@dualathlon.random> <20020312141439.C14628@holomorphy.com> <20020312160430.W25226@dualathlon.random>, <20020312160430.W25226@dualathlon.random>; <20020312233117.E14628@holomorphy.com> <3C8E98B2.159FA546@zip.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: brief message Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3C8E98B2.159FA546@zip.com.au>; from akpm@zip.com.au on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 04:09:22PM -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org wli@holomorphy.com wrote: >> Also, these changes to the hashing scheme were not separated out >> from the rest of the VM patch, so the usual "break this up >> into a separate patch please" applies. On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 04:09:22PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > FYI, I am doing that at present. It look like Andrea's 10_vm-30 > patch will end up as twenty or thirty separate patches. I won't > be testing every darn patch individually - I'll batch them up into > maybe four groups for testing and merging. There are some okay parts to aa's hashing changes but we need to work together to get the patch to perform those and drop the rest, and also address some style issues. Some of the constants are adjustable (though it's not clear how they should be adjusted) and the wait_table_t ADT is fine. The hash function change is not and moving the table from per-zone to per-node is questionable, as its effects are not well-understood. Perhaps understandably so, I'd like to take a hands-on role in guiding this patch into a form suitable for the mainline kernel. On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 04:09:22PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > Andrea introduced some subtly changed buffer locking rules, and > this causes ext3 to deadlock under heavy load. Until we sort > this out, I'm afraid that the -aa VM is not suitable for production > use with ext3. > ext2 is OK and I *assume* it's OK with reiserfs. The problem occurs > when a filesystem performs: > lock_buffer(dirty_bh); > allocate_something(GFP_NOFS); > without having locked the buffer's page. sync_page_buffers() > can perform a wait_on_buffer() against dirty_bh. (I think. > I'm not quite up-to-speed with the new buffer state bits yet). This looks like a change of invariants that could generate a fair amount of audit work. Ugh... Cheers, Bill - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/