Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753024AbZGXOES (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:04:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752936AbZGXOER (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:04:17 -0400 Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com ([74.125.92.25]:7171 "EHLO qw-out-2122.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752801AbZGXOER convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:04:17 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DjKEj5b5yWl9MNMsgFqqZkvVz2enQp7cuLhif5EDCj5vMpB++0TSB8iREa1BVALZJ9 OJ3gp3sBKQA5EpAjcridVBMeAGLDy+t339+BqdJ7t9p3NGGmFYDjsb0ShmBItzKZyb3M AL+SvhpPHu6Og9j6OjuSNd2W+4e9WeUJtXens= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1248443656.6987.61.camel@twins> References: <454c71700907240357l61f5c4fajaca73db0fba7db8@mail.gmail.com> <1248437670.6987.26.camel@twins> <454c71700907240604h4673f117j8ed58b9f2ee54798@mail.gmail.com> <1248441290.6987.52.camel@twins> <454c71700907240626w127fd890ufa91ef90cbcaaa@mail.gmail.com> <1248442415.6987.56.camel@twins> <454c71700907240644h7469e2a5sfcb57f202a2e184d@mail.gmail.com> <1248443656.6987.61.camel@twins> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:04:16 +0800 Message-ID: <454c71700907240704o32dcdeb3v57845eb9472dd04c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: report a bug about sched_rt From: sen wang To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: mingo@elte.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, kernel@kolivas.org, npiggin@suse.de, arjan@infradead.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2150 Lines: 59 2009/7/24 Peter Zijlstra : > On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 21:44 +0800, sen wang wrote: >> 2009/7/24 Peter Zijlstra : >> > On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 21:26 +0800, sen wang wrote: >> >> don't tell me what theory. don't be so doctrinairism! OK? >> >> If cpu is free and there is a running state task,how can you scdedule >> >> idle task up? >> >> I tell you again:we are not talking about a bandwidth of 100% for RT! >> >> Bug lies in the bandwidth of (100- X)%.(X<100) >> >> even in the time of 100-X,if there is a rt task, you should not idle() >> >> the system. >> > >> > *sigh* >> > >> > Yes we should. I appreciate that you might assume otherwise, but you're >> > wrong. Suppose you have two competing bandwidth groups, which one will >> > run over, to what purpose? >> > >> > Also, your next top post will go to /dev/null. >> > >> >> >> OK !  maybe you has not understand what I said. >> It not two competing bandwidth groups. there is a  active group and >> another is empty? >> How you do? > > No, but the 1 group is the trivial case of many groups. Changing the > semantics for the trivial case is inconsistent at best, and confusing at > worst. > >> Why not try it by your hand: empty the fair task, run a rt task,enable >> the  bandwidth and >> see what will happen! > > Oh, I know, I wrote the code. > >> In many embedded system,idle task will lead to shutdown something, but >> the rt task will >> assume: when it run, idle will not happen! > > How is it my problem when you design your system wrong? > > If you want your 1 RT group to not get throttled, disable the throttle, > or adjust it to fit the parameters of your workload. If you don't want > idle to have latency impact on your RT tasks, fix your idle behaviour. > > > OK just one question: if cpu is free and there is running state task, how you do? schedule the task up? or schedule idle task up? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/