Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:25:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:25:03 -0500 Received: from chaos.analogic.com ([204.178.40.224]:12160 "EHLO chaos.analogic.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:24:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:25:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard B. Johnson" Reply-To: root@chaos.analogic.com To: "H. Peter Anvin" cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: IO delay, port 0x80, and BIOS POST codes In-Reply-To: <3C912227.3080806@zytor.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > > > > Yeh? Then "how do it know?". It doesn't. I/O instructions are ordered, > > however, that's all. There is no bus-interface state machine that exists > > except on the addressed device. The CPU driven interface device just > > makes sure that the data is valid before the address and I/O-read or > > I/O-write are valid after this. The address is decoded by the device > > and is used to enable the device. It either puts its data onto the > > bus in the case of a read, or gets data off the bus, in the case of > > a write. The interface timing is specified and is handled by hardware. > > In the meantime the CPU has not waited because there is nothing to > > wait for. On a READ, if the device cannot put its data on the bus > > fast enough, it puts its finger io IO-chan-ready. This forces the > > CPU (through its bus-interface) to wait. > > > > Writes to nowhere are just that, writes to nowhere. > > > > > On the ISA bus, yes. The PCI and front side busses will be held in wait > until the transaction is completed. > > The exact requirement is a bit more complicated, something along the > lines of "an SMI triggered in response to an OUT will be taken before > the OUT is retired." > Correct! The PCI is very much different, I'm glad, and hopefully nobody will be using that for deliberate waits. Cheers, Dick Johnson Penguin : Linux version 2.4.18 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips). Windows-2000/Professional isn't. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/