Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:43:02 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:42:52 -0500 Received: from www.deepbluesolutions.co.uk ([212.18.232.186]:38925 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:42:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:42:37 +0000 From: Russell King To: David Woodhouse Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.4 and 2.5: remove Alt-Sysrq-L Message-ID: <20020315144237.G24984@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20020315142854.E24984@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20020315131612.C24984@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <30439.1016201464@redhat.com> <20020315142854.E24984@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <1901.1016202759@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1901.1016202759@redhat.com>; from dwmw2@infradead.org on Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:32:39PM +0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:32:39PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote: > rmk@arm.linux.org.uk said: > > Well, I've tried this approach, Linus rejected it. > > If you'd like to take up this problem, be my guest. > > Not really - I also tried already. But I'm disinclined to offer band-aids > for the brokenness. I don't know of any Linux kernel that has ever been able to cope with PID1 dying. I certainly remember facing the PID1 dying causing lockup as far back as 1.3 kernels, and I even tried to fix it back then. The argument put forward for not fixing it is that PID1 should not exit. Period. The point here is not that the kernel itself can't cope with PID1 exiting, but that the code _bypasses_ the protection put into the kernel against PID1 exiting. -- Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk) The developer of ARM Linux http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/