Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758599AbZIQNLc (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:11:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757002AbZIQNLc (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:11:32 -0400 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:51946 "EHLO www.etchedpixels.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754221AbZIQNLb convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:11:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:13:03 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Kay Sievers Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" , Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Greg Kroah-Hartmann Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster Message-ID: <20090917141303.428fe73c@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1352 Lines: 34 > > ?* A static dev is faster. > > A static /dev is unreliable and unpredictable, and can not be used in > any not very limited and controlled environment. It's pure theory for Moblin appears to be the fastest boot and doesn't use it. I fact Arjan seems pretty anti > Eric, ever wondered why all the people working in hotplug area, > maintaining todays systems, and even the ones who wrote udev, want > this? And only people who have never written any code in hotplug land "All". Thats a bit of a fiction. But this is the wrong argument anyway The question is - Is it technically correct - Does it properly interact with the rest of the kernel and upcoming stuff So I'd like to see the fs folks sign off on it - which they've noticably not done yet. Whether you want devfs2 (ie devtmpfs) or static dev or udev is a configuration and user dependant question no different to what fs do you prefer. Whether it actually works and doesn't screw stuff up is a rather more important technical question that needs proper review from the fs list, which is notably lacking right now, except in the negative. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/