Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752894AbZIROcb (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:32:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752731AbZIROca (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:32:30 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f175.google.com ([209.85.211.175]:51425 "EHLO mail-yw0-f175.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752637AbZIROc3 (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:32:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090918162503.6735cc1b@infradead.org> References: <20090918160944.58e5c1f5@infradead.org> <20090918162503.6735cc1b@infradead.org> From: Kay Sievers Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:32:18 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster To: Arjan van de Ven Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" , Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Greg Kroah-Hartmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1203 Lines: 30 On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 16:25, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:11:16 +0200 > Kay Sievers wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 16:09, Arjan van de Ven >> wrote: >> >> > frankly, modprobe should call the settle. >> >> We call modprobe from udev, and will have fun with such a solution. >> > > too bad you cut my next sentence which said that there needed to be a > way to opt out of that. Too bad, bad we don't have control over all the udev rules out there doing that, which will dead-lock then. And too bad that when udev calls modprobe we still don't solve the races. Too bad that calling "settle" waits for all events and you can never know when loading a module what to wait for and what not. It's just not a close to a solution that is doing any good. What's the point of all these weird workarounds you are proposing? I think it's properly solved already. Thanks, Kay -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/