Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758051AbZIRTme (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:42:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757521AbZIRTm2 (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:42:28 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:38863 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757516AbZIRTm1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:42:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:41:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds X-X-Sender: torvalds@localhost.localdomain To: Kay Sievers cc: Greg KH , Ingo Molnar , "Eric W. Biederman" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [bug] /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied (Was: Re: [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20090917125759.GA4045@kroah.com> <1253238637.4071.10.camel@yio.site> <20090918060210.GC7104@kroah.com> <20090918150541.GB9307@kroah.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (LFD 1184 2008-12-16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 748 Lines: 20 On Fri, 18 Sep 2009, Kay Sievers wrote: > > With that patch, I can login as a normal user without any udev ever > started, and no static content copied to /dev. I think this is something to aim for as a goal. No, it may not be a /dev you'd want to use normally, but from a robustness and stability angle, having a policy that says "we should aim to _work_ even without udev running at all, even if you don't get the frills". So at that point devtmpfs actually offers users something. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/