Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753627AbZITBnb (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:43:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753458AbZITBna (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:43:30 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f175.google.com ([209.85.211.175]:39583 "EHLO mail-yw0-f175.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752972AbZITBna (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:43:30 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xpyj5uN/GQ3rWNRM8NhUVBeZdlR1xBapX5bv2v3cYgJwXqNd2VtfRpWvjBrKUyzIOE X/aqwn+2qANstn/2hsyuTlEKllMOh3+UTKaq5pdWSkGmT67gAoyTGLDCygPpTNRTqkzy NfZpIEsmCpYCP3Q3nMvZCEYLmBJDN38D+C+FE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090918195005.GA11726@elte.hu> References: <1253238637.4071.10.camel@yio.site> <20090918060210.GC7104@kroah.com> <20090918150541.GB9307@kroah.com> <20090918195005.GA11726@elte.hu> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:43:33 +1000 Message-ID: <21d7e9970909191843l6fbb835bme509c18cedfd728c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [bug] /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied (Was: Re: [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster) From: Dave Airlie To: Ingo Molnar Cc: Kay Sievers , Greg KH , Linus Torvalds , "Eric W. Biederman" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 824 Lines: 18 > > Self-contained /dev is great, udev is a total PITA on older distros (on > this box it sometimes takes 3 minutes for udev to boot ...) so turning > on devtmpfs and getting something functional in exchange is a big > selling point IMO. udev taking 3 minutes usually means you have a kernel driver bug, udev doesn't have a sleep for 3 minutes, it loads drivers and usually waits for them to finish. Since someone decided to merge a stupid floppy PNP match I've seen a lot of floppyless machines hit a 30sec udev delay. so many that we disabled the pnp floppy on Fedora. Dave. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/