Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753243AbZIWTmV (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:42:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751360AbZIWTmT (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:42:19 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f174.google.com ([209.85.211.174]:57246 "EHLO mail-yw0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751321AbZIWTmS convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:42:18 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Eyf2XgxCOAEzE0g1cQrfbPbhTJ7sp3Ix51i1nj2vAr9Y4uNiE32Ob0FybyELZKPatu R9mkdU9bdZADziicfhRX/5P5bv6ld3aomgTpAcaHBeS3zLcF9MF2FXtF+EvxtAW4Z8E1 LJtYKu7xvlYRaJ+r9Nk053VV4mqQZyAt2W3DU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <520f0cf10909231240g11f5cafei5cbb4ed494eba76d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1253132182.20020.242.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> <20090922.153201.225375909.davem@davemloft.net> <20090923114725.GB4132@elte.hu> <20090923.111444.247045711.davem@davemloft.net> <20090923193020.GA20934@elte.hu> <520f0cf10909231240g11f5cafei5cbb4ed494eba76d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:42:21 +0200 Message-ID: <520f0cf10909231242r598b0bebtf99c8bea9690d11f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mailing list for trace users From: John Kacur To: Ingo Molnar Cc: David Miller , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , "H. Peter Anvin" , Thomas Gleixner , rostedt@goodmis.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, fweisbec@gmail.com, acme@redhat.com, mhiramat@redhat.com, postmaster@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2532 Lines: 62 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:40 PM, John Kacur wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: >> >> * David Miller wrote: >> >>> From: Ingo Molnar >>> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:47:25 +0200 >>> >>> > Could you please also create the linux-perf-users list, for perf >>> > events and the perf tool related user questions? (We have asked for >>> > this before but must have gotten lost somewhere) >>> >>> I think your communities are similar enough and small enough that you >>> could share this list. >> >> It's two separate subsystems. There's a lot of non-tracing aspects of >> performance events: it does profiling, counting, latency analysis, etc. >> The tool is named 'perf', the subsystem is named 'performance events', >> and the most typical workflows dont do any tracing. >> >> And i beg to differ about the size of the communities. It's just been >> added upstream... >> >> Also, what is the policy for adding new lists to vger.kernel.org? If a >> subsystem maintainer asks for a list named after a core kernel >> subsystem, how frequently is it rejected, and on what basis? >> >> I find it sad that such an arbitrary looking negative decision from you >> forces a user list away from vger. I wouldnt mind it to be closed if it >> has no significant traffic after a year or lifetime or so - many vger >> lists have almost no traffic to begin with. >> >> Also, i cannot help but to observe the fact that you've fought the >> original perfcounters project in a very ugly and public way less than a >> year ago. Dont you think that you 'deciding' this matter in such a >> negative fashion is a conflict of interest? >> >> ? ? ? ?Ingo > > Yikes - Ingo, I don't want to spawn a long thread here about what to > call the list, but > as a native English speaker, I think that "linux-trace-users" sounds > much nicer than > "linux-tracing-users". > > Perhaps, trace is an adjective describing the kind of users, in any > case, it doesn't > sound like "one trace" - so, could we go this one? > (if you insist on linux-tracing then you have to drop the word "users") > > John > That's funny, boast about my credentials as a native English speaker, and then make a mistake. s/go this one/go with this one -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/