Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752551AbZI2OQY (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:16:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752780AbZI2OQX (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:16:23 -0400 Received: from liberdade.minaslivre.org ([72.232.18.203]:54128 "EHLO liberdade.minaslivre.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752764AbZI2OQU (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:16:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:16:19 -0300 From: Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo To: Alan Jenkins Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, len.brown@intel.com, don@syst.com.br, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, dtor@mail.ru, dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] cmpc_acpi: Added support for Classmate PC ACPI devices. Message-ID: <20090929141618.GD18847@vespa.holoscopio.com> References: <1254188280-29155-1-git-send-email-cascardo@holoscopio.com> <9b2b86520909290220g6b5f6beal6337b17f1bdd339@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9b2b86520909290220g6b5f6beal6337b17f1bdd339@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 20757 Lines: 672 --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:20:44AM +0100, Alan Jenkins wrote: > On 9/29/09, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote: > > This add supports for devices like keyboard, backlight, tablet and > > accelerometer. > > > > This work is supported by International Syst S/A. > > > > Signed-off-by: Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo >=20 > Hi! >=20 > In general this driver was a pleasure to read. It looks like you have > a nice and clean ACPI interface to work with. I haven't seen anything > quite like the cmpc_{add,remove}_acpi_notify_device() functions > before, but they make a lot of sense here. >=20 > But I do have a few comments :-). >=20 > The "-laptop" naming convention is more informative than "-acpi". > Perhaps this driver should be called "classmate-laptop". I would keep > the cmpc_ prefix in the source code though. >=20 > More comments inline. >=20 Hello, Allan. Thanks for the feedback. I am considering an investigation whether we have lots of other ACPI input devices that could share some code like {add,remove}_acpi_notify_device. Regarding the driver naming, I will send a second version with it and other modifications considering your feedback and that of other people too. I will also ask for some explicit feedback and add linux-input and Dmitry to the loop. > > +/* > > + * Generic input device code. > > + */ > > + > > +typedef void (*input_device_init)(struct input_dev *dev); > > + > > +static int cmpc_add_acpi_notify_device(struct acpi_device *acpi, char > > *name, > > + acpi_notify_handler handler, > > + input_device_init idev_init) > > +{ > > + struct input_dev *inputdev; > > + acpi_status status; > > + int error; > > + inputdev =3D input_allocate_device(); > > + if (!inputdev) { > > + error =3D -ENOMEM; > > + goto out; > > + } > > + inputdev->name =3D name; > > + inputdev->dev.parent =3D &acpi->dev; > > + idev_init(inputdev); > > + error =3D input_register_device(inputdev); > > + if (error) > > + goto err_reg; > > + dev_set_drvdata(&acpi->dev, inputdev); > > + status =3D acpi_install_notify_handler(acpi->handle, ACPI_DEVICE_NOTI= FY, > > + handler, inputdev); > > + if (ACPI_FAILURE(status)) { > > + error =3D -ENODEV; > > + goto err_acpi; > > + } > > + return 0; > > +err_acpi: > > + input_unregister_device(inputdev); > > +err_reg: > > + input_free_device(inputdev); > > +out: > > + return error; > > +} > > + > > +static int cmpc_remove_acpi_notify_device(struct acpi_device *acpi, > > + acpi_notify_handler handler) > > +{ > > + struct input_dev *inputdev; > > + acpi_status status; > > + status =3D acpi_remove_notify_handler(acpi->handle, ACPI_DEVICE_NOTIF= Y, > > + handler); > > + inputdev =3D dev_get_drvdata(&acpi->dev); > > + input_unregister_device(inputdev); > > + input_free_device(inputdev); >=20 > Dmitry the input maintainer says "input_free_device() should not be > called after input_unregister_device()." (This also applies to the > error handling in add_acpi_notify_device()). >=20 That's right. My mistake here. And I've hit this mistake before. input_free_device calls put_device (through input_put_device) and input_unregister_device calls device_unregister, which also calls put_device. > > + return 0; > > +} > > + > > + > > +/* > > + * Accelerometer code. > > + */ > > + > > +static acpi_status cmpc_start_accel(acpi_handle handle) > > +{ > > + union acpi_object param[2]; > > + struct acpi_object_list input; > > + acpi_status status; > > + param[0].type =3D ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER; > > + param[0].integer.value =3D 0x3; > > + param[1].type =3D ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER; > > + input.count =3D 2; > > + input.pointer =3D param; > > + status =3D acpi_evaluate_object(handle, "ACMD", &input, NULL); > > + return status; > > +} > > + > > +static acpi_status cmpc_stop_accel(acpi_handle handle) > > +{ > > + union acpi_object param[2]; > > + struct acpi_object_list input; > > + acpi_status status; > > + param[0].type =3D ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER; > > + param[0].integer.value =3D 0x4; > > + param[1].type =3D ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER; > > + input.count =3D 2; > > + input.pointer =3D param; > > + status =3D acpi_evaluate_object(handle, "ACMD", &input, NULL); > > + return status; > > +} > > + > > +static acpi_status cmpc_accel_set_sense(acpi_handle handle, int val) > > +{ > > + union acpi_object param[2]; > > + struct acpi_object_list input; > > + param[0].type =3D ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER; > > + param[0].integer.value =3D 0x02; > > + param[1].type =3D ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER; > > + param[1].integer.value =3D val; > > + input.count =3D 2; > > + input.pointer =3D param; > > + return acpi_evaluate_object(handle, "ACMD", &input, NULL); > > +} > > + > > +static acpi_status cmpc_get_accel(acpi_handle handle, > > + unsigned char *x, > > + unsigned char *y, > > + unsigned char *z) > > +{ > > + union acpi_object param[2]; > > + struct acpi_object_list input; > > + struct acpi_buffer output =3D { ACPI_ALLOCATE_BUFFER, 0 }; > > + unsigned char *locs; > > + acpi_status status; > > + param[0].type =3D ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER; > > + param[0].integer.value =3D 0x01; > > + param[1].type =3D ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER; > > + input.count =3D 2; > > + input.pointer =3D param; > > + status =3D acpi_evaluate_object(handle, "ACMD", &input, &output); > > + if (ACPI_SUCCESS(status)) { > > + union acpi_object *obj; > > + obj =3D output.pointer; > > + locs =3D obj->buffer.pointer; > > + *x =3D locs[0]; > > + *y =3D locs[1]; > > + *z =3D locs[2]; > > + kfree(output.pointer); > > + } > > + return status; > > +} > > + > > +static void cmpc_accel_handler(acpi_handle handle, u32 event, void *ct= x) > > +{ > > + struct input_dev *inputdev =3D ctx; > > + acpi_status status; > > + unsigned char x, y, z; > > + if (event =3D=3D 0x81) { > > + status =3D cmpc_get_accel(handle, &x, &y, &z); > > + if (ACPI_SUCCESS(status)) { > > + input_report_abs(inputdev, ABS_X, x); > > + input_report_abs(inputdev, ABS_Y, y); > > + input_report_abs(inputdev, ABS_Z, z); > > + input_sync(inputdev); > > + } > > + } > > +} > > + > > +static ssize_t cmpc_accel_sense_store(struct device *dev, > > + struct device_attribute *attr, > > + const char *buf, size_t count) > > +{ > > + struct acpi_device *acpi; > > + int sense; > > + acpi =3D to_acpi_device(dev); > > + if (sscanf(buf, "%d", &sense) <=3D 0) > > + return -EINVAL; > > + cmpc_accel_set_sense(acpi->handle, sense); > > + return strnlen(buf, count); > > +} > > + > > +struct device_attribute cmpc_accel_sense_attr =3D { > > + .attr =3D { .name =3D "sense", .mode =3D 0220 }, > > + .store =3D cmpc_accel_sense_store > > +}; >=20 > What does this do? What range of values can it take? Is it a common > attribute for input devices, or does it need specific documentation? >=20 > Would it make sense for the driver to initialize it to a default > value, so that we would always know what the current value is, and > provide a .show() method as well? >=20 This changes the accelerometer device sensitivity. I will take a look at the ACPI tables to get a range. If very much sensitive, the device will generate too much ACPI notifications, even when the classmate PC is no a table and there seems to be no movement. If not very much sensitive, you must throw it spinning into the air to get anything. :-) I will pick a default value, although I think we could let it to userspace, but a sensible default value will not hurt here. As far as I know, there is no ACPI method to do get_sense, but we can mirror the last value written and provide a .show. What do you recommend as a documentation? Something at Documentation/ABI/testing/, perhaps? I don't know if there are any other devices with something similar, but I would not be surprised if there are some of them. > > + > > +static int cmpc_accel_open(struct input_dev *input) > > +{ > > + struct acpi_device *acpi; > > + acpi =3D to_acpi_device(input->dev.parent); > > + if (ACPI_SUCCESS(cmpc_start_accel(acpi->handle))) > > + return 0; > > + return -EIO; > > +} > > + > > +static void cmpc_accel_close(struct input_dev *input) > > +{ > > + struct acpi_device *acpi; > > + acpi =3D to_acpi_device(input->dev.parent); > > + cmpc_stop_accel(acpi->handle); > > +} > > + > > +static void cmpc_accel_idev_init(struct input_dev *inputdev) > > +{ > > + set_bit(EV_ABS, inputdev->evbit); > > + input_set_abs_params(inputdev, ABS_X, 0, 255, 8, 0); > > + input_set_abs_params(inputdev, ABS_Y, 0, 255, 8, 0); > > + input_set_abs_params(inputdev, ABS_Z, 0, 255, 8, 0); Any hints on how to pick up values for this calibration? Any testing procedure or anything? > > + inputdev->open =3D cmpc_accel_open; > > + inputdev->close =3D cmpc_accel_close; > > +} > > + > > +static int cmpc_accel_add(struct acpi_device *acpi) > > +{ > > + int error; > > + error =3D device_create_file(&acpi->dev, &cmpc_accel_sense_attr); > > + if (error) > > + return error; > > + return cmpc_add_acpi_notify_device(acpi, "cmpc_accel", > > + cmpc_accel_handler, > > + cmpc_accel_idev_init); > > +} > > + > > +static int cmpc_accel_remove(struct acpi_device *acpi, int type) > > +{ > > + device_remove_file(&acpi->dev, &cmpc_accel_sense_attr); > > + return cmpc_remove_acpi_notify_device(acpi, cmpc_accel_handler); > > +} > > + > > +static const struct acpi_device_id cmpc_accel_device_ids[] =3D { > > + {"ACCE0000", 0}, > > + {"", 0} > > +}; > > +MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(acpi, cmpc_accel_device_ids); > > + > > +static struct acpi_driver cmpc_accel_acpi_driver =3D { > > + .name =3D "cmpc_accel", > > + .class =3D "cmpc_accel", > > + .ids =3D cmpc_accel_device_ids, > > + .ops =3D { > > + .add =3D cmpc_accel_add, > > + .remove =3D cmpc_accel_remove > > + } >=20 > Could you please set >=20 > .owner =3D THIS_MODULE, >=20 > on all the acpi drivers? It will provide data in > /sys/module/cmpc_acpi/drivers and > /sys/bus/acpi/drivers//module. It seems to be forgotten > knowledge, but I'm trying to revive it :-). >=20 Consider it done. Although I think this could be done automatically someday. > > +}; > > + > > +static bool cmpc_accel_driver_registered; > > + > > + > > +/* > > + * Tablet mode code. > > + */ > > +static acpi_status cmpc_get_tablet(acpi_handle handle, > > + unsigned long long *value) > > +{ > > + union acpi_object param; > > + struct acpi_object_list input; > > + unsigned long long output; > > + acpi_status status; > > + param.type =3D ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER; > > + param.integer.value =3D 0x01; > > + input.count =3D 1; > > + input.pointer =3D ¶m; > > + status =3D acpi_evaluate_integer(handle, "TCMD", &input, &output); > > + if (ACPI_SUCCESS(status)) > > + *value =3D output; > > + return status; > > +} > > + > > +static void cmpc_tablet_handler(acpi_handle handle, u32 event, void *c= tx) > > +{ > > + unsigned long long val =3D 0; > > + struct input_dev *inputdev =3D ctx; > > + if (event =3D=3D 0x81) { > > + if (ACPI_SUCCESS(cmpc_get_tablet(handle, &val))) > > + input_report_switch(inputdev, SW_TABLET_MODE, !val); > > + } > > +} > > + > > +static void cmpc_tablet_idev_init(struct input_dev *inputdev) > > +{ > > + set_bit(EV_SW, inputdev->evbit); > > + set_bit(SW_TABLET_MODE, inputdev->swbit); >=20 > Don't you need to initialize the switch value here? >=20 No, input_allocate_device does kzalloc. Otherwise, this would apply to the other bitmaps as well. > Also, have you tested this with changing the switch value while > suspended? I _think_ you need to update the switch state on resume. > This is purely from looking at other acpi drivers and their evolution; > I don't have any practical experience with input drivers. >=20 Interesting point. I will do the testing. > > +} > > + > > +static int cmpc_tablet_add(struct acpi_device *acpi) > > +{ > > + return cmpc_add_acpi_notify_device(acpi, "cmpc_tablet", > > + cmpc_tablet_handler, > > + cmpc_tablet_idev_init); > > +} > > + > > +static int cmpc_tablet_remove(struct acpi_device *acpi, int type) > > +{ > > + return cmpc_remove_acpi_notify_device(acpi, cmpc_tablet_handler); > > +} > > + > > +static const struct acpi_device_id cmpc_tablet_device_ids[] =3D { > > + {"TBLT0000", 0}, > > + {"", 0} > > +}; > > +MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(acpi, cmpc_tablet_device_ids); > > + > > +static struct acpi_driver cmpc_tablet_acpi_driver =3D { > > + .name =3D "cmpc_tablet", > > + .class =3D "cmpc_tablet", > > + .ids =3D cmpc_tablet_device_ids, > > + .ops =3D { > > + .add =3D cmpc_tablet_add, > > + .remove =3D cmpc_tablet_remove > > + } > > +}; > > + > > +static bool cmpc_tablet_driver_registered; > > + > > + > > +/* > > + * Backlight code. > > + */ > > + > > +static acpi_status cmpc_get_brightness(acpi_handle handle, > > + unsigned long long *value) > > +{ > > + union acpi_object param; > > + struct acpi_object_list input; > > + unsigned long long output; > > + acpi_status status; > > + param.type =3D ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER; > > + param.integer.value =3D 0xC0; > > + input.count =3D 1; > > + input.pointer =3D ¶m; > > + status =3D acpi_evaluate_integer(handle, "GRDI", &input, &output); > > + if (ACPI_SUCCESS(status)) > > + *value =3D output; > > + return status; > > +} > > + > > +static acpi_status cmpc_set_brightness(acpi_handle handle, > > + unsigned long long value) > > +{ > > + union acpi_object param[2]; > > + struct acpi_object_list input; > > + acpi_status status; > > + unsigned long long output; > > + param[0].type =3D ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER; > > + param[0].integer.value =3D 0xC0; > > + param[1].type =3D ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER; > > + param[1].integer.value =3D value; > > + input.count =3D 2; > > + input.pointer =3D param; > > + status =3D acpi_evaluate_integer(handle, "GWRI", &input, &output); > > + return status; > > +} > > + > > +static int cmpc_bl_get_brightness(struct backlight_device *bd) > > +{ > > + acpi_status status; > > + acpi_handle handle; > > + unsigned long long brightness; > > + handle =3D bl_get_data(bd); > > + status =3D cmpc_get_brightness(handle, &brightness); > > + if (ACPI_SUCCESS(status)) > > + return brightness; > > + else > > + return -1; > > +} > > + > > +static int cmpc_bl_update_status(struct backlight_device *bd) > > +{ > > + acpi_status status; > > + acpi_handle handle; > > + handle =3D bl_get_data(bd); > > + status =3D cmpc_set_brightness(handle, bd->props.brightness); > > + if (ACPI_SUCCESS(status)) > > + return 0; > > + else > > + return -1; > > +} > > + > > +static struct backlight_ops cmpc_bl_ops =3D { > > + .get_brightness =3D cmpc_bl_get_brightness, > > + .update_status =3D cmpc_bl_update_status > > +}; > > + > > +static int cmpc_bl_add(struct acpi_device *acpi) > > +{ > > + struct backlight_device *bd; > > + bd =3D backlight_device_register("cmpc_bl", &acpi->dev, > > + acpi->handle, &cmpc_bl_ops); > > + bd->props.max_brightness =3D 7; > > + dev_set_drvdata(&acpi->dev, bd); > > + return 0; > > +} > > + > > +static int cmpc_bl_remove(struct acpi_device *acpi, int type) > > +{ > > + struct backlight_device *bd; > > + bd =3D dev_get_drvdata(&acpi->dev); > > + backlight_device_unregister(bd); > > + return 0; > > +} > > + > > +static const struct acpi_device_id cmpc_device_ids[] =3D { > > + {"IPML200", 0}, > > + {"", 0} > > +}; > > +MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(acpi, cmpc_device_ids); > > + > > +static struct acpi_driver cmpc_bl_acpi_driver =3D { > > + .name =3D "cmpc", > > + .class =3D "cmpc", > > + .ids =3D cmpc_device_ids, > > + .ops =3D { > > + .add =3D cmpc_bl_add, > > + .remove =3D cmpc_bl_remove > > + } > > +}; > > + > > +static bool cmpc_bl_driver_registered; > > + > > + > > +/* > > + * Extra keys code. > > + */ > > +static int cmpc_keys_codes[] =3D { > > + KEY_UNKNOWN, > > + KEY_WLAN, > > + KEY_SWITCHVIDEOMODE, >=20 > > + KEY_BRIGHTNESSDOWN, > > + KEY_BRIGHTNESSUP, >=20 > Please confirm that the brightness keys do not directly affect the > backlight, and these key events are a signal for userspace to adjust > the backlight itself. >=20 AFAIK, they don't. We even had to write a simple userspace daemon that would change the backlight values through sysfs when receiving an input event. > If they _do_ affect the backlight, you should call the newly added > backlight_force_update() when they are pressed, and it will generate a > uevent on the backlight device. (I guess you will have to add an ugly > global variable for the backlight device, sorry about that). In this > case you should ideally avoid generating _input_ events for brightness > keys. >=20 > Currently userspace is expected to handle annoying devices which > generate KEY_BRIGHTNESS* while directly changing the brightness. But > requires a racy hack, so you should definitely try to avoid this for > new devices. It will encourage userspace to implement support for the > backlight device uevents :-). >=20 > > + KEY_VENDOR, This key is at the side of the LCD panel, not on the keyboard proper and it has the drawing of a house. Any suggestions besides using KEY_VENDOR? > > + KEY_MAX > > +}; > > + > > +static void cmpc_keys_handler(acpi_handle handle, u32 event, void *ctx) > > +{ > > + struct input_dev *inputdev; > > + int code =3D KEY_MAX; > > + if ((event & 0x0F) < ARRAY_SIZE(cmpc_keys_codes)) > > + code =3D cmpc_keys_codes[event & 0x0F]; > > + inputdev =3D ctx; > > + input_report_key(inputdev, code, !(event & 0x10)); > > +} > > + > > +static void cmpc_keys_idev_init(struct input_dev *inputdev) > > +{ > > + int i; > > + set_bit(EV_KEY, inputdev->evbit); > > + for (i =3D 0; cmpc_keys_codes[i] !=3D KEY_MAX; i++) > > + set_bit(cmpc_keys_codes[i], inputdev->keybit); > > +} > > + > > +static int cmpc_keys_add(struct acpi_device *acpi) > > +{ > > + return cmpc_add_acpi_notify_device(acpi, "cmpc_keys", > > + cmpc_keys_handler, > > + cmpc_keys_idev_init); > > +} > > + > > +static int cmpc_keys_remove(struct acpi_device *acpi, int type) > > +{ > > + return cmpc_remove_acpi_notify_device(acpi, cmpc_keys_handler); > > +} > > + > > +static const struct acpi_device_id cmpc_keys_device_ids[] =3D { > > + {"FnBT0000", 0}, > > + {"", 0} > > +}; > > +MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(acpi, cmpc_keys_device_ids); > > + > > +static struct acpi_driver cmpc_keys_acpi_driver =3D { > > + .name =3D "cmpc_keys", > > + .class =3D "cmpc_keys", > > + .ids =3D cmpc_keys_device_ids, > > + .ops =3D { > > + .add =3D cmpc_keys_add, > > + .remove =3D cmpc_keys_remove > > + } > > +}; > > + > > +static bool cmpc_keys_driver_registered; > > + > > + > > +/* > > + * General init/exit code. > > + */ > > + > > +static int cmpc_init(void) > > +{ > > + int result; > > + result =3D acpi_bus_register_driver(&cmpc_keys_acpi_driver); > > + cmpc_keys_driver_registered =3D !!result; > > + result =3D acpi_bus_register_driver(&cmpc_bl_acpi_driver); > > + cmpc_bl_driver_registered =3D !!result; > > + result =3D acpi_bus_register_driver(&cmpc_tablet_acpi_driver); > > + cmpc_tablet_driver_registered =3D !!result; > > + result =3D acpi_bus_register_driver(&cmpc_accel_acpi_driver); > > + cmpc_accel_driver_registered =3D !!result; >=20 > These _registered flags are not necessary. Registration doesn't fail > if the hardware doesn't exist. It only fails if acpi=3Doff, or on > -ENOMEM. It would be reasonable to fail loading the module if one of > the drivers fails to register. >=20 OK. I had some doubts when writing it this way. I will rewrite it. > > + /* > > + * Not every CMPC has every ACPI device supported here. So always ret= urn > > + * success. > > + */ > > + return 0; > > +} > > + > > +static void cmpc_exit(void) > > +{ > > + if (cmpc_accel_driver_registered) > > + acpi_bus_unregister_driver(&cmpc_accel_acpi_driver); > > + if (cmpc_tablet_driver_registered) > > + acpi_bus_unregister_driver(&cmpc_tablet_acpi_driver); > > + if (cmpc_bl_driver_registered) > > + acpi_bus_unregister_driver(&cmpc_bl_acpi_driver); > > + if (cmpc_keys_driver_registered) > > + acpi_bus_unregister_driver(&cmpc_keys_acpi_driver); > > +} > > + > > +module_init(cmpc_init); > > +module_exit(cmpc_exit); > > -- > > 1.6.3.3 Regards, Thadeu Cascardo. --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrCFrIACgkQyTpryRcqtS27zQCfWHw0xSHKefYqPFPrbGiqGSYB T5YAoJDBEi7ZR9rUQ1s/w8ezvmdZvFFe =iCGI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q-- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/