Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756090AbZJAS2v (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:28:51 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755866AbZJAS2u (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:28:50 -0400 Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com ([209.85.220.227]:44845 "EHLO mail-fx0-f227.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755078AbZJAS2u (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:28:50 -0400 Message-ID: <4AC4F4E0.7050404@natemccallum.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:28:48 -0400 From: Nathaniel McCallum User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090922 Fedora/3.0-3.9.b4.fc12 Lightning/1.0pre Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Richter CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com Subject: Re: Exposing device ids and driver names References: <4AC4DB65.8070404@natemccallum.com> <4AC4EB2E.4050907@s5r6.in-berlin.de> <4AC4EEB2.8090904@natemccallum.com> <4AC4F3B0.6080202@s5r6.in-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <4AC4F3B0.6080202@s5r6.in-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1766 Lines: 41 On 10/01/2009 02:23 PM, Stefan Richter wrote: > Nathaniel McCallum wrote: >> On 10/01/2009 01:47 PM, Stefan Richter wrote: >>> Nathaniel McCallum wrote: > [...] >>>> The second tool, related to the first, is a program which runs on >>>> Windows and scans for a user's hardware and tells them which distro will >>>> best support their hardware. > [...] >>> Hardware support also depends on userland: Udev rules, libraries, >>> application programs. >>> >>> Even if you ignore that for now and only look at the kernel part of >>> hardware support: Beyond "doesn't have a matching driver" and "does >>> have", there is a large and impossible to track grey area of "has a >>> poorly working driver" and "has a perfectly working driver". > > There are even more factors for how well something works or even whether > it works at all: It may even depend on combinations of two pieces of > hardware, e.g. bus adapter and device on that bus. It may depend on > device firmware revisions. > >> Yes, I'm aware of this and will account for it as best as I am able. > [...] >> you are correct that we cannot predict 100% of user >> experience. But 70% is a huge improvement over 0%. > > So, this 2nd tool can't literally say which distribution supports a > device best. It can mostly just list which distributions contain a > matching kernel driver. I never said that. What I said is that I will "do my best." This will include using other data sources, such as Xorg drivers, libusb drivers, user feedback, etc. Nathaniel -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/