Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932871AbZJFP7l (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:59:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932837AbZJFP7k (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:59:40 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:40892 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932799AbZJFP7j (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:59:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:58:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds X-X-Sender: torvalds@localhost.localdomain To: James Bottomley cc: Andrew Morton , linux-scsi , linux-kernel Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3 In-Reply-To: <1254844007.4383.85.camel@mulgrave.site> Message-ID: References: <1254844007.4383.85.camel@mulgrave.site> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (LFD 1184 2008-12-16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1408 Lines: 32 On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, James Bottomley wrote: > > This is mostly fixes. However, it contains two new drivers: Brocade SAS > (bfa), the Bladengine2 iSCSI (be2iscsi) under the merge window exemption Btw, I'm getting less excited about the merge window exemption. It makes sense for consumer devices that people actually hit and that are needed for bringup (ie they make a difference between a system that can be installed and used, and one that cannot), but I'm not at all sure it makes sense for things like this. The _reason_ for the driver exemption was the fact that even a broken driver is better than no driver at all for somebody who just can't get a working system without it, but that argument really goes away when the driver is so specialized that it's not about regular hardware any more. And the whole "driver exemption" seems to have become a by-word for "I can ignore the merge window for 50% of my code". Which makes me very tired of it if there aren't real advantages to real users. So I'm seriously considering a "the driver has to be mass market and also actually matter to an install" rule for the exemption to be valid. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/