Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760842AbZJINud (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:50:33 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1760819AbZJINud (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:50:33 -0400 Received: from mtagate4.de.ibm.com ([195.212.17.164]:38363 "EHLO mtagate4.de.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1760806AbZJINuc (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:50:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:49:50 +0200 From: Martin Schwidefsky To: Jens Axboe Cc: Peter Zijlstra , Ehrhardt Christian , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , Wu Fengguang Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: make VM_MAX_READAHEAD configurable Message-ID: <20091009154950.43f01784@mschwide.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> In-Reply-To: <20091009122952.GI9228@kernel.dk> References: <1255087175-21200-1-git-send-email-ehrhardt@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1255090830.8802.60.camel@laptop> <20091009122952.GI9228@kernel.dk> Organization: IBM Corporation X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.18.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2211 Lines: 49 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:29:52 +0200 Jens Axboe wrote: > On Fri, Oct 09 2009, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 13:19 +0200, Ehrhardt Christian wrote: > > > From: Christian Ehrhardt > > > > > > On one hand the define VM_MAX_READAHEAD in include/linux/mm.h is just a default > > > and can be configured per block device queue. > > > On the other hand a lot of admins do not use it, therefore it is reasonable to > > > set a wise default. > > > > > > This path allows to configure the value via Kconfig mechanisms and therefore > > > allow the assignment of different defaults dependent on other Kconfig symbols. > > > > > > Using this, the patch increases the default max readahead for s390 improving > > > sequential throughput in a lot of scenarios with almost no drawbacks (only > > > theoretical workloads with a lot concurrent sequential read patterns on a very > > > low memory system suffer due to page cache trashing as expected). > > > > Why can't this be solved in userspace? > > > > Also, can't we simply raise this number if appropriate? Wu did some > > read-ahead trashing detection bits a long while back which should scale > > the read-ahead window back when we're low on memory, not sure that ever > > made it in, but that sounds like a better option than having different > > magic numbers for each platform. > > Agree, making this a config option (and even defaulting to a different > number because of an arch setting) is crazy. The patch from Christian fixes a performance regression in the latest distributions for s390. So we would opt for a larger value, 512KB seems to be a good one. I have no idea what that will do to the embedded space which is why Christian choose to make it configurable. Clearly the better solution would be some sort of system control that can be modified at runtime. -- blue skies, Martin. "Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/