Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761745AbZJNNwk (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:52:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1760189AbZJNNwj (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:52:39 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f208.google.com ([209.85.219.208]:37498 "EHLO mail-ew0-f208.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755894AbZJNNwi (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:52:38 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=vQeVH7UbdgKamDuX/o58cpWLbi9IvzB626BPYz2XNbLms3QEMUFJKTkUcy+cL/ebWf p5IplLX/S4ZYsC5rRzzMUMfjiOlVScI6KM/zaPmBvZdk+R0OSd8b7QJK+OdTgJb27GZg 9ImPBkbTHHnb0SqAcumvvHXx/7dFErrd4AfZU= From: Ivo van Doorn To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz Subject: Re: Current status of rt2800usb and staging/rt2870 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:51:56 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 Cc: Dan Williams , Ozan =?utf-8?q?=C3=87a=C4=9Flayan?= , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, "linux-kernel" References: <4AD46380.9020308@pardus.org.tr> <1255464940.10798.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200910132357.57094.bzolnier@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200910132357.57094.bzolnier@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200910141551.56711.IvDoorn@gmail.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1557 Lines: 30 > > 1) the vendor driver never gets converted to cfg80211/mac80211, and > > stays in staging forever, or finally gets booted out of staging because > > nobody is working on converting it to mac80211. mac80211/cfg80211 is a > > hard requirement for being an accepted wireless driver. And drivers do > > have a shelf-life in staging. > > > > 2) the vendor driver starts getting converted to use mac80211. But I > > would argue that a better use of *anyone's* time is to make rt2x00 > > better, instead of porting the ralink vendor drivers to mac80211. It > > would probably take less time to fix up rt2x00 for new hardware than to > > port the ralink vendor drivers to mac80211. > > Nobody is saying anything about porting the vendor drivers to mac80211. > > 3) After the vendor driver gets cleaned up to the point that people are > able to make any sense out of it the missing bits will get added to rt2x00. > Several months later (after all current users are happy with the improved > drivers) the old drivers will be removed from staging.. Wishful thinking. the Ralink drivers for rt2460, rt2560, rt2570, rt61 and rt73 coexisted for years with their rt2x00 counterparts before they were finally abandoned after many arguments from people which wanted to preserve those drivers for even more years. Ivo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/