Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934172AbZJNOyH (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:54:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S934034AbZJNOyG (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:54:06 -0400 Received: from mail-gx0-f212.google.com ([209.85.217.212]:38075 "EHLO mail-gx0-f212.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S934172AbZJNOyF (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:54:05 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:message-id:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tTCkPkAOXWiZQokaZnxIu6FmnSL9wJTnte305wL2YFMnmjAWjDEKXCMXzs3BgZYjaF abLWOxast30fUPqspxDIMLeuGRMF6gj3MUt4i6GnTyDYO4cSrz5NnIlQsU9Nut5DAegC RzvPuw3praTklm4gCAlJzJFq/Vb2gTdaDl0uk= From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz To: "John W. Linville" Subject: Re: Current status of rt2800usb and staging/rt2870 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:52:40 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (Linux/2.6.31-rc2-00279-g2ffa5fe; KDE/4.3.1; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Dan Williams , Ivo van Doorn , Ozan =?utf-8?q?=C3=87a=C4=9Flayan?= , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, "linux-kernel" References: <4AD46380.9020308@pardus.org.tr> <200910132357.57094.bzolnier@gmail.com> <20091014140923.GA2890@tuxdriver.com> In-Reply-To: <20091014140923.GA2890@tuxdriver.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200910141652.41041.bzolnier@gmail.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1295 Lines: 30 On Wednesday 14 October 2009 16:09:24 John W. Linville wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:57:57PM +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > > > Several months later (after all current users are happy with the improved > > drivers) the old drivers will be removed from staging.. > > I _really_ hope this isn't the standard. By that measure, nothing > will ever leave staging as _someone_ will always have some use case > that makes the other driver better for them. Doesn't seem to be the case with all other drivers except wireless ones and the only real reason why wireless ones are so special is because of: "But then there's the users, who bitch about everything and simply do not understand what it is at stake. And all this is becoming way too messy for us to handle. Personally all I see around me is people bitching and complaining, and no code being ported." attitude which pretty much explains the problem.. Please adjust the process to fix the problem yourself or if you do not want to do it just make the room for people who do. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/